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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5428024" data-attributes="member: 177">Well, the OP asked how we got to this sort of discussion suddenly.&nbsp; All I'm saying is that it has by no means been sudden, and that in fact this sort of talk as been going on for years.&nbsp; It isn't even specific to 4e.&nbsp; We had much the same back in the 3e days, too.But, to answer your question, let me restate it slightly:What if the reason for that backlash is that a relatively small number of people who don't have any actual business information (like budgets, or sales numbers) feel like stating opinions on business?Well, before you come to conclusions, you have to subtract the noise due to bias.&nbsp; The &quot;800 lb gorilla&quot; of gaming has had detractors since back when it was TSR.&nbsp; People have been beating on it forever, and not always for good reason.&nbsp; Paizo is the small guy, the underdog, and we always love underdogs.I would not go anywhere near the claim that &quot;most people genuinely don't like what WotC is doing&quot;.&nbsp; I don't feel the posts on this board come anywhere near being data to suggest that as a true statement.&nbsp; No statistician worth the name would think we comprised a representative sample of the market.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5428024, member: 177"] Well, the OP asked how we got to this sort of discussion suddenly. All I'm saying is that it has by no means been sudden, and that in fact this sort of talk as been going on for years. It isn't even specific to 4e. We had much the same back in the 3e days, too. But, to answer your question, let me restate it slightly: What if the reason for that backlash is that a relatively small number of people who don't have any actual business information (like budgets, or sales numbers) feel like stating opinions on business? Well, before you come to conclusions, you have to subtract the noise due to bias. The "800 lb gorilla" of gaming has had detractors since back when it was TSR. People have been beating on it forever, and not always for good reason. Paizo is the small guy, the underdog, and we always love underdogs. I would not go anywhere near the claim that "most people genuinely don't like what WotC is doing". I don't feel the posts on this board come anywhere near being data to suggest that as a true statement. No statistician worth the name would think we comprised a representative sample of the market. [/QUOTE]

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