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<blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 5433683" data-attributes="member: 7883"><p>Well, I would expect the Bestiary 2 to be up on that list, as it's brand new....aren't the D&D books a bit older (the ones on the list).</p><p></p><p>Now, what would convince me is to see a month where you had Pathfinder release a major book, and WotC release a major D&D book, and see Paizo's book still come out on top. That would be food for thought.</p><p></p><p>Hey, I'm excited either way....I like Pathfinder. I don't care as much for 4E, but I'd rather not see D&D fail. And if people like it, more power to them. I guess at the end of the day, I'd be more upset about the direction 4E went if Pathfinder hadn't happened....like if there was no OGL or SRD or whatever. Then there would be no choice. Given that fans of each system can get their fix, I don't think there's as much of a problem.</p><p></p><p>I also feel that Paizo has a bit of an easy time of it.....they're building on an excellent base foundation. The real challenge will come when they try to release Pathfinder 2E.......then we'll see just how good their design chops are.</p><p></p><p>Again, not saying I want either to fail. But I like Pathfinder because I liked 3E, and I found that the Paizo team basically hard coded in changes to the game that in many cases were using elements inspired over the last 10 years that I liked....the sorcerer bloodline feats, enhanced abilities for specialist wizards, better stuff for fighters, etc.</p><p></p><p>I guess it'll be interesting to see what happens. If Paizo *does* turn out to be taking serious chunks from D&D's market share, then I think down the road we'll see changes. At that point, it would just make sense for 5E to take more design cues from Pathfinder, than to move even further from 3E.</p><p></p><p>I don't know how scientific those sales data sources are....but showing Pathfinder beating D&D in Amazon sales is interesting....because the fact that the other sale data didn't include Amazon sales seems to be an argument used to invalidate it.</p><p></p><p>Banshee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Banshee16, post: 5433683, member: 7883"] Well, I would expect the Bestiary 2 to be up on that list, as it's brand new....aren't the D&D books a bit older (the ones on the list). Now, what would convince me is to see a month where you had Pathfinder release a major book, and WotC release a major D&D book, and see Paizo's book still come out on top. That would be food for thought. Hey, I'm excited either way....I like Pathfinder. I don't care as much for 4E, but I'd rather not see D&D fail. And if people like it, more power to them. I guess at the end of the day, I'd be more upset about the direction 4E went if Pathfinder hadn't happened....like if there was no OGL or SRD or whatever. Then there would be no choice. Given that fans of each system can get their fix, I don't think there's as much of a problem. I also feel that Paizo has a bit of an easy time of it.....they're building on an excellent base foundation. The real challenge will come when they try to release Pathfinder 2E.......then we'll see just how good their design chops are. Again, not saying I want either to fail. But I like Pathfinder because I liked 3E, and I found that the Paizo team basically hard coded in changes to the game that in many cases were using elements inspired over the last 10 years that I liked....the sorcerer bloodline feats, enhanced abilities for specialist wizards, better stuff for fighters, etc. I guess it'll be interesting to see what happens. If Paizo *does* turn out to be taking serious chunks from D&D's market share, then I think down the road we'll see changes. At that point, it would just make sense for 5E to take more design cues from Pathfinder, than to move even further from 3E. I don't know how scientific those sales data sources are....but showing Pathfinder beating D&D in Amazon sales is interesting....because the fact that the other sale data didn't include Amazon sales seems to be an argument used to invalidate it. Banshee [/QUOTE]
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