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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 3723344" data-attributes="member: 5202">Thanks for all that, but that is basically the description over the years in D&amp;D books.&nbsp; Not the exact words, but over the years I've just gotten sick of the &quot;fire and forget&quot; style of casting.&nbsp; There are different (and obviously IMO better) systems available in any number of games.&nbsp; I swap things around as I need to when I run, but I don't run as often as I play.&nbsp; Heck, I haven't even played in a year except for a few games a few months ago.&nbsp; Never read the Vance books, they honestly don't sound all that appealing to me either.&nbsp; It may well be that in Vance's books it was a far greater achievement to store the knowledge in your head, but it's always just been an hour of study in D&amp;D.&nbsp; By the time you're 10th level, that hour of study gets you dozens of spells.&nbsp; That doesn't strike me as exceedingly difficult verging on the impossible.Warhammer FRPG&gt;I snagged this from a used bin for $5 a few months back (1st Ed) cuz I had always heard good things and of course, almost as death friendly as Rolemaster heh.&nbsp; I immediately noticed all the things I hated about 2E that were gone in 3 like random race/class restrictions and such.&nbsp; I don't mind that a 1st level guy w/ a spear and a series of lucky rolls can kill a L15 champion of whoever.&nbsp; He should get a buttlaod of XP for it too <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 3723344, member: 5202"] [b] Thanks for all that, but that is basically the description over the years in D&D books. Not the exact words, but over the years I've just gotten sick of the "fire and forget" style of casting. There are different (and obviously IMO better) systems available in any number of games. I swap things around as I need to when I run, but I don't run as often as I play. Heck, I haven't even played in a year except for a few games a few months ago. Never read the Vance books, they honestly don't sound all that appealing to me either. It may well be that in Vance's books it was a far greater achievement to store the knowledge in your head, but it's always just been an hour of study in D&D. By the time you're 10th level, that hour of study gets you dozens of spells. That doesn't strike me as exceedingly difficult verging on the impossible. Warhammer FRPG>I snagged this from a used bin for $5 a few months back (1st Ed) cuz I had always heard good things and of course, almost as death friendly as Rolemaster heh. I immediately noticed all the things I hated about 2E that were gone in 3 like random race/class restrictions and such. I don't mind that a 1st level guy w/ a spear and a series of lucky rolls can kill a L15 champion of whoever. He should get a buttlaod of XP for it too ;)[/b] [/QUOTE]

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