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<blockquote data-quote="Presto2112" data-source="post: 3723936" data-attributes="member: 18303">This is all well and good, but I must take everything said by all these people with a grain of salt - nay, a salt lick.&nbsp; The game designers, for the most part, are loyal gamers, and they put a lot of themselves into the product they're now promoting, but in the end, I have to remind myself that the reason they're saying all this stuff is they have a vested interest in selling this product.&nbsp; I really have to wait and see for myself if it will be worth switching, because I'm simply too cynical to take the word of anyone who is directly linked to what they're persuading you to use / buy / play.&nbsp; It's the same reason I don't believe anything that Public Relations people tell me; they're PAID to make manure look like chocolate.&nbsp; If I try it and like it, then I may eventually purchase it.And I just can't shake the feeling that I've heard it all before, anyway.&nbsp; Every edition is touted as better than the one before, but it's not always true!&nbsp; They'll tell you that the rules for the new system are streamlined and trimmed down from the glut of rules from the previous edition.&nbsp; Whose responsibility is it for that glut, huh?&nbsp; They build a brand new house, smelling all fresh and glistening in the sun, and then they fill it with clutter. Then, instead of cleaning up the mess (which is what I consider 3.5), they build a new house!The move from 2nd to 3rd edition I understand; WotC had just bought TSR, and released 3rd Edition in large part to make the game a WotC product, not a purchased TSR product.&nbsp; 4th Edition just smells funny to me, and no amount of sweet talk is going to convince me otherwise until I try it for myself and review the 4eSRD.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Presto2112, post: 3723936, member: 18303"] This is all well and good, but I must take everything said by all these people with a grain of salt - nay, a salt lick. The game designers, for the most part, are loyal gamers, and they put a lot of themselves into the product they're now promoting, but in the end, I have to remind myself that the reason they're saying all this stuff is [I]they have a vested interest in selling this product[/I]. I really have to wait and see for myself if it will be worth switching, because I'm simply too cynical to take the word of anyone who is directly linked to what they're persuading you to use / buy / play. It's the same reason I don't believe anything that Public Relations people tell me; they're PAID to make manure look like chocolate. If I try it and like it, then I may eventually purchase it. And I just can't shake the feeling that I've heard it all before, anyway. Every edition is touted as better than the one before, but it's not always true! They'll tell you that the rules for the new system are streamlined and trimmed down from the glut of rules from the previous edition. Whose responsibility is it for that glut, huh? They build a brand new house, smelling all fresh and glistening in the sun, and then they fill it with clutter. Then, instead of cleaning up the mess (which is what I consider 3.5), they build a new house! The move from 2nd to 3rd edition I understand; WotC had just bought TSR, and released 3rd Edition in large part to make the game a WotC product, not a purchased TSR product. 4th Edition just smells funny to me, and no amount of sweet talk is going to convince me otherwise until I try it for myself and review the 4eSRD. [/QUOTE]

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