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<blockquote data-quote="Simon Marks" data-source="post: 3918214" data-attributes="member: 56243">I've stated that the 4e feels like the spiritual successor to BECMI D&amp;D, but it's very hard to explain why.Part of it, for me, is the Planes fluff changes. The loss of the great wheel, the Astral Sea with outer planes floating in it. The Elemental Vortex, the Feywild and Shadowfell all feel like something from BECMI.BECMI was distinctly less &quot;Simulationist&quot; than AD&amp;D. Races as classes, no multiclassing etc. The fact that Monsters and PCs where totally different is something for example.BECMI feels more ... Mythic and fantastical than AD&amp;D. AD&amp;D was too mired (for me) in being 'real'.The flagship scenario for AD&amp;D as far as I am concerned is Keep on the Borderlands.The flagship scenario for BECMI D&amp;D was Palace of the Silver Princess.Does that help?As an avowed BECMI D&amp;D preferer over AD&amp;D, the fact that 4e feels more like BECMI for the above reasons (less ... real, more Fairy Tale) means I am far more interested in it than I otherwise would be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Simon Marks, post: 3918214, member: 56243"] I've stated that the 4e feels like the spiritual successor to BECMI D&D, but it's very hard to explain [i]why[/i]. Part of it, for me, is the Planes fluff changes. The loss of the great wheel, the Astral Sea with outer planes floating in it. The Elemental Vortex, the Feywild and Shadowfell all [i]feel[/i] like something from BECMI. BECMI was distinctly less "Simulationist" than AD&D. Races as classes, no multiclassing etc. The fact that Monsters and PCs where totally different is something for example. BECMI feels more ... [i]Mythic[/i] and fantastical than AD&D. AD&D was too mired (for me) in being 'real'. The flagship scenario for AD&D as far as I am concerned is Keep on the Borderlands. The flagship scenario for BECMI D&D was Palace of the Silver Princess. Does that help? As an avowed BECMI D&D preferer over AD&D, the fact that 4e feels more like BECMI for the above reasons (less ... real, more Fairy Tale) means I am far more interested in it than I otherwise would be. [/QUOTE]

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