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<blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 4799041" data-attributes="member: 317"><p>You're entitled to your opinion of course, just as I am mine. Mr. Jacobs has clarified his position in this thread (which I had not seen before now), and I realize there won't be any 4e Paizo products, which is disappointing. </p><p></p><p>However, I still stand by my assertion that in the hypothetical situation if Paizo DID support 4e, many Pathfinder fans would go insane. There is good reason to think this, based on the past behavior of quite a few folks. The 3e loyalists (many of which are the same people now carrying the banner for Paizo) did it when WotC announced 4e, again with greater rancor when 4e was released (with claims such as "4e destroyed D&D", "WotC has betrayed us/the D&D legacy", "roleplaying is impossible in 4e", or "4e is t-ball D&D"), and if I remember correctly, on the Paizo forums (and to a lesser extent ENWorld) back when 4e was announced there was considerable outrage voiced by many fans when it was uncertain whether Paizo would make any 4e products because the GSL was an unknown. This sneering comtempt and negativity on the part of some Paizo fans (not the Paizo employees) is one reason I don't visit the Paizo forums anymore.</p><p></p><p>In any event, its a hypothetical situation and won't happen, so no need for anybody to get their blood pressure up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'll still buy some Paizo adventures and convert them, and Paizo's reasoning to not support 4e makes sense from their business perspective. There is no need for outrage or emotional responses- with both 4e D&D and Pathfinder around, everybody gets whats they want and is happy! I just feel its a shame their quality products could reach a wider audience, but won't. Hopefully Necromancer Games won't follow Paizo's way of thinking, and will support both 4e AND Pathfinder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gothmog, post: 4799041, member: 317"] You're entitled to your opinion of course, just as I am mine. Mr. Jacobs has clarified his position in this thread (which I had not seen before now), and I realize there won't be any 4e Paizo products, which is disappointing. However, I still stand by my assertion that in the hypothetical situation if Paizo DID support 4e, many Pathfinder fans would go insane. There is good reason to think this, based on the past behavior of quite a few folks. The 3e loyalists (many of which are the same people now carrying the banner for Paizo) did it when WotC announced 4e, again with greater rancor when 4e was released (with claims such as "4e destroyed D&D", "WotC has betrayed us/the D&D legacy", "roleplaying is impossible in 4e", or "4e is t-ball D&D"), and if I remember correctly, on the Paizo forums (and to a lesser extent ENWorld) back when 4e was announced there was considerable outrage voiced by many fans when it was uncertain whether Paizo would make any 4e products because the GSL was an unknown. This sneering comtempt and negativity on the part of some Paizo fans (not the Paizo employees) is one reason I don't visit the Paizo forums anymore. In any event, its a hypothetical situation and won't happen, so no need for anybody to get their blood pressure up. :) I'll still buy some Paizo adventures and convert them, and Paizo's reasoning to not support 4e makes sense from their business perspective. There is no need for outrage or emotional responses- with both 4e D&D and Pathfinder around, everybody gets whats they want and is happy! I just feel its a shame their quality products could reach a wider audience, but won't. Hopefully Necromancer Games won't follow Paizo's way of thinking, and will support both 4e AND Pathfinder. [/QUOTE]
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