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<blockquote data-quote="TheLe" data-source="post: 3706996" data-attributes="member: 3981"><p>I don't think that's the case at all, at least not in PDF world. People are already paying $2.00 for 6 pages of crap (I have made no secret about my disdain for pdf pricing, which I believe is too high). And now that Rpgnow has merged with DTRPG, you are probably seeing alot fewer books on sale since Dtrpg customers are willing to pay the higher price tag.</p><p></p><p>I think the current pricing is going to remain pretty much the same, but more customers means bigger profits for those companies.</p><p></p><p>Like I said before, it's good for publishers, but bad for customers. I have no problems if they do a licensing or go straight d20 ogl. You can certainly quote me for saying that I wouldn't mind a 1k-2k licensing fee, but you should also quote me as saying "free and open OGL is just fine for me," because I believe it is. But don't think for a moment that I matter in these discussions.</p><p></p><p>On Gleemax a WK staff member said this, "We have discussed a fee based license for the d20 system trademark but fees are not a guarantee of getting only quality publishers. Nothing as been decided yet and there are many options on the table including a hand selected group using the d20 STL or none and just having everyone use OGL." (found <a href="http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13448297&postcount=78" target="_blank">here</a>)</p><p></p><p>Now you tell me -- are the big publishers that players know and love going to push for "a hand selected group" or are they going to push for "everyone use OGL".</p><p></p><p>Probably the hand selected group. Big publishers that players love are in the industry to bring creativity to the game, but they can't do it unless they are making lots of money. So no matter what you think, always remember that in the end, publishing companies are greedy bastards.</p><p></p><p>So, for the record, I couldn't care less if they force us to pay a license or make it open for all publishers. I have a good report with my core customers, and I try to focus on fun and interesting products. As long as I put out a quality product, I will have customers. I just hope they Wizards doesn't decide to give in and make "d20" a "selected group of publishers" option only. That would be terrible for the customer.</p><p></p><p>~Le</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheLe, post: 3706996, member: 3981"] I don't think that's the case at all, at least not in PDF world. People are already paying $2.00 for 6 pages of crap (I have made no secret about my disdain for pdf pricing, which I believe is too high). And now that Rpgnow has merged with DTRPG, you are probably seeing alot fewer books on sale since Dtrpg customers are willing to pay the higher price tag. I think the current pricing is going to remain pretty much the same, but more customers means bigger profits for those companies. Like I said before, it's good for publishers, but bad for customers. I have no problems if they do a licensing or go straight d20 ogl. You can certainly quote me for saying that I wouldn't mind a 1k-2k licensing fee, but you should also quote me as saying "free and open OGL is just fine for me," because I believe it is. But don't think for a moment that I matter in these discussions. On Gleemax a WK staff member said this, "We have discussed a fee based license for the d20 system trademark but fees are not a guarantee of getting only quality publishers. Nothing as been decided yet and there are many options on the table including a hand selected group using the d20 STL or none and just having everyone use OGL." (found [url=http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13448297&postcount=78]here[/url]) Now you tell me -- are the big publishers that players know and love going to push for "a hand selected group" or are they going to push for "everyone use OGL". Probably the hand selected group. Big publishers that players love are in the industry to bring creativity to the game, but they can't do it unless they are making lots of money. So no matter what you think, always remember that in the end, publishing companies are greedy bastards. So, for the record, I couldn't care less if they force us to pay a license or make it open for all publishers. I have a good report with my core customers, and I try to focus on fun and interesting products. As long as I put out a quality product, I will have customers. I just hope they Wizards doesn't decide to give in and make "d20" a "selected group of publishers" option only. That would be terrible for the customer. ~Le [/QUOTE]
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