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<blockquote data-quote="wayne62682" data-source="post: 3711763" data-attributes="member: 40455">I haven't slogged through the entire thread, but here are some thoughts:- Not really sure how I feel about the &quot;defined roles&quot; thing.&nbsp; I thought the point of 3.x was that there were no defined roles, and you could play whatever you want?&nbsp; If 4E is designed with the assumption that you're going to have one of each role, isn't that basically forcing people to play things?&nbsp; e.g.Player 1:&nbsp; I was thinking of playing a Dwarf Fighter with &lt;insert various specific things&gt;Player 2:&nbsp; Oh... sorry, but Bob here is already playing the &quot;defender&quot; role.&nbsp; We don't have a &quot;controller&quot; role yet, so you can play the Wizard.Player 1:&nbsp; ...Hopefully that won't be the case, but it sounds close to requiring archetypal roles in the group.- Similar train of thought with the racial differences.&nbsp; It sounds like they're going away from the &quot;any race can be anything&quot; and running dangerously close to the old &quot;Only members of races x, y and z can be this class&quot; nonsense in the bad old days.&nbsp; Again, it's too early to be sure, and I'm certain they won't do something like that, but it was a point of concern with some of my friends.- Finally, regarding the VTT.&nbsp; It would be possible, given that the DI is going to have a MySpace aspect to it, to have &quot;groups&quot; and do a check allowing everyone access to the group's pooled online content.&nbsp; For example, if the DM has two books that the player's dont, and has paid the unlock fee, anyone who is listed in his gaming group can make use of them with the character generator.&nbsp; Same if Player A has a book that nobody else has; members of his/her regular gaming group can access them for games if he's paid the fee.&nbsp; Obviously this would require a permission-based &quot;Join Group&quot; feature of the site, so the DM and his/her players are all linked together as being a regular gaming group who regularly plays online.&nbsp; That said, I doubt they'll go this route and either everyone will have to unlock their own copy (thus forcing you to purchase more books...) or have a license fee for multiple licenses like in the software industry.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wayne62682, post: 3711763, member: 40455"] I haven't slogged through the entire thread, but here are some thoughts: - Not really sure how I feel about the "defined roles" thing. I thought the point of 3.x was that there were no defined roles, and you could play whatever you want? If 4E is designed with the assumption that you're going to have one of each role, isn't that basically forcing people to play things? e.g. Player 1: I was thinking of playing a Dwarf Fighter with <insert various specific things> Player 2: Oh... sorry, but Bob here is already playing the "defender" role. We don't have a "controller" role yet, so you can play the Wizard. Player 1: ... Hopefully that won't be the case, but it sounds close to requiring archetypal roles in the group. - Similar train of thought with the racial differences. It sounds like they're going away from the "any race can be anything" and running dangerously close to the old "Only members of races x, y and z can be this class" nonsense in the bad old days. Again, it's too early to be sure, and I'm certain they won't do something like that, but it was a point of concern with some of my friends. - Finally, regarding the VTT. It would be possible, given that the DI is going to have a MySpace aspect to it, to have "groups" and do a check allowing everyone access to the group's pooled online content. For example, if the DM has two books that the player's dont, and has paid the unlock fee, anyone who is listed in his gaming group can make use of them with the character generator. Same if Player A has a book that nobody else has; members of his/her regular gaming group can access them for games if he's paid the fee. Obviously this would require a permission-based "Join Group" feature of the site, so the DM and his/her players are all linked together as being a regular gaming group who regularly plays online. That said, I doubt they'll go this route and either everyone will have to unlock their own copy (thus forcing you to purchase more books...) or have a license fee for multiple licenses like in the software industry. [/QUOTE]

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