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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NMcCoy" data-source="post: 4754762" data-attributes="member: 61546">Seconding Remathilis above - I'm a huge fan of 4e myself, but the powers are so central to the system that I suspect you'd have an easier time finding a system that's more suitable to your tastes. A better question to ask is "what DO you like about 4e?" Figure that out, and I suspect you'll not have too much trouble either finding another system with those desirable traits, or porting those traits over to a system of your choice.EDIT: Regarding Henry's suggestion above, I'm not sure how that's actually getting rid of powers - looks more like keeping powers, but just taking the flavor off. Also, dazed is almost always a stronger condition than prone, so I'm not sure why you have "dazed +2[W]" in combination with "prone +1[W]"...</blockquote>