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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4758878" data-attributes="member: 82504">At a static +2 you gain not much but once you start defining the &quot;meaning&quot; of that +2 functionally? you either loose the original complaining folks by defining it too well or just refer back to page 42 and convincing players they do indeed have permission to reflavor &quot;at-will&quot; ;-).&nbsp; That post about reflavoring the wizards at wills has inspired my imagination Now note some of those descriptions are very &quot;conditional&quot;

That conditionality is I think meat for the people who want 'improvisation'.
They show that your description of how you achieve the effect can be &nbsp; well situationally suited... a scorching burst being described as transmuting rain that is already coming down in to fire &quot;this time&quot;.... somebody asks the wizard afterward and he says &quot;sure I can do it&quot; and shows them a cantrip where he heats his drink by making its top layer burn with a snap and says most of the time its just not that useful in battle. He has many other ways of creating a scorching burst... one includes tossing an acorn and freeing its inner flame he can do the same with an egg or similar but it smells bad or calling up volcanic spurts when the enemy is on appropriate rocky ground... or conjuring that cantankerous fire serpent (but never in the rain it would attack me then of course). The flavor text can have built in &quot;reasons&quot; for why you don't spam with them it doesn't have to be that restrictive or mechanical. Sorry I had to use your breakfast but how many acorns do you expect me to carry? Sure I can make the snake stick around a few rounds but they do get annoyed If I make him (by pulling it back in next round slips back to the elemental plane). I like to portal in a a burst of fire from when there was a forest fire in this location but some places it is just well too far back..</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 4758878, member: 82504"] At a static +2 you gain not much but once you start defining the "meaning" of that +2 functionally? you either loose the original complaining folks by defining it too well or just refer back to page 42 and convincing players they do indeed have permission to reflavor "at-will" ;-). That post about reflavoring the wizards at wills has inspired my imagination [CENTER][COLOR=Red]Now note some of those descriptions are very "conditional"[/COLOR] That conditionality is I think meat for the people who want 'improvisation'. [/CENTER] They show that your description of how you achieve the effect can be well situationally suited... a [B]scorching burst[/B] being described as transmuting rain that is already coming down in to fire "this time".... somebody asks the wizard afterward and he says "sure I can do it" and shows them a cantrip where he heats his drink by making its top layer burn with a snap and says most of the time its just not that useful in battle. He has many other ways of creating a scorching burst... one includes tossing an acorn and freeing its inner flame he can do the same with an egg or similar but it smells bad or calling up volcanic spurts when the enemy is on appropriate rocky ground... or conjuring that cantankerous fire serpent (but never in the rain it would attack me then of course). The flavor text can have built in "reasons" for why you don't spam with them it doesn't have to be that restrictive or mechanical. Sorry I had to use your breakfast but how many acorns do you expect me to carry? Sure I can make the snake stick around a few rounds but they do get annoyed If I make him (by pulling it back in next round slips back to the elemental plane). I like to portal in a a burst of fire from when there was a forest fire in this location but some places it is just well too far back.. [/QUOTE]

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