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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 4054036" data-attributes="member: 5202"><p>Convert the Unfettered from Arcana Evolved? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Warmains maximized the contributions from their heavy armor and Unfettered gained extra bonuses while being lightly armored.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I always find it interesting how 2 people can hear the same thing and come away thinking completely different things. I've seen many people agreeing with mmu1 here and thinking that this blands the system out. I read things like this and I get excited thinking about making more oddball parties that in prior editions of D&D would have been atrocious that just plain work in 4E. Then again, I was a fan of a thread here that made every ability in the game purchasable w/various requisites etc. A character that is primarily a wizard but has a few ranks of Sneak Attack is a weird idea, but hey if it works enjoy. That guy would probably be really nasty w/rays and other spells requiring attack rolls tho <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Only time will tell how distinct each class in the game feels, but it isn't like there aren't classes w/severe overlap already in the game. I'm looking at you Rangers. Bards are the ultimate mish-mash that has never been done very well. Barbarians and Paladins are both easily Prestige Classes. Barbarian should be a description of your life growing up and the fighter class should be more flexible so as to allow the production of something similar. If the various talent paths or whatever they're going to have in 4E allow you to produce archery specialist ranged fighters, rage filled barbarians, lightly armored swashbucklers and pit fighting gladiators all based on how you choose to focus yourself and still feel distinctly different, I will be totally satisfied. Heck, if they're approaching that even, I can houserule the rest <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 4054036, member: 5202"] Convert the Unfettered from Arcana Evolved? :) Warmains maximized the contributions from their heavy armor and Unfettered gained extra bonuses while being lightly armored. I always find it interesting how 2 people can hear the same thing and come away thinking completely different things. I've seen many people agreeing with mmu1 here and thinking that this blands the system out. I read things like this and I get excited thinking about making more oddball parties that in prior editions of D&D would have been atrocious that just plain work in 4E. Then again, I was a fan of a thread here that made every ability in the game purchasable w/various requisites etc. A character that is primarily a wizard but has a few ranks of Sneak Attack is a weird idea, but hey if it works enjoy. That guy would probably be really nasty w/rays and other spells requiring attack rolls tho :) Only time will tell how distinct each class in the game feels, but it isn't like there aren't classes w/severe overlap already in the game. I'm looking at you Rangers. Bards are the ultimate mish-mash that has never been done very well. Barbarians and Paladins are both easily Prestige Classes. Barbarian should be a description of your life growing up and the fighter class should be more flexible so as to allow the production of something similar. If the various talent paths or whatever they're going to have in 4E allow you to produce archery specialist ranged fighters, rage filled barbarians, lightly armored swashbucklers and pit fighting gladiators all based on how you choose to focus yourself and still feel distinctly different, I will be totally satisfied. Heck, if they're approaching that even, I can houserule the rest ;) [/QUOTE]
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