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[4e] Wizard as good as a Fighter in Standard Melee
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<blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 4547427" data-attributes="member: 9952"><p>Regarding the issue of a skill bonus of 1/2 level, I think what this represents needs to be examined.</p><p></p><p>That every character gets the same 1/2 level bonus to base combat stats shows that every character is acquiring greater skill. A 10th level wizard (for example) has had their overall fighting skills honed just like their 10th level fighter companion. Essentially the stereotype of the imcompetent and ineffectual wizard character has been trashed. In its place we have a leaner, fitter, faster character with battle experience. </p><p></p><p>Should this wizard take training with the sword then they can wield it with the same basic competency of their fighter friend. However, to learn advanced techniques the wizard has to at least partially cut back the amount of time devoted to maintaining & improving their mastery of magic.</p><p></p><p>The earlier editions of D&D racked up so many obstacles to wizards fighting in melee. Their attack bonus, AC, # attacks, weapons available, hps were all too inferior. However only a few of the above need to be sub-optimal to discourage the majority from being sword wielding wizards. In 4E, the wizard is faced with the minimum useful stat, non-proficiency & unavailable power 'obstacles' to overcome before the sword-wizard becomes a viable choice. That's is a pretty serious investment, no need for overkill.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FreeTheSlaves, post: 4547427, member: 9952"] Regarding the issue of a skill bonus of 1/2 level, I think what this represents needs to be examined. That every character gets the same 1/2 level bonus to base combat stats shows that every character is acquiring greater skill. A 10th level wizard (for example) has had their overall fighting skills honed just like their 10th level fighter companion. Essentially the stereotype of the imcompetent and ineffectual wizard character has been trashed. In its place we have a leaner, fitter, faster character with battle experience. Should this wizard take training with the sword then they can wield it with the same basic competency of their fighter friend. However, to learn advanced techniques the wizard has to at least partially cut back the amount of time devoted to maintaining & improving their mastery of magic. The earlier editions of D&D racked up so many obstacles to wizards fighting in melee. Their attack bonus, AC, # attacks, weapons available, hps were all too inferior. However only a few of the above need to be sub-optimal to discourage the majority from being sword wielding wizards. In 4E, the wizard is faced with the minimum useful stat, non-proficiency & unavailable power 'obstacles' to overcome before the sword-wizard becomes a viable choice. That's is a pretty serious investment, no need for overkill. [/QUOTE]
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