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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WayneLigon" data-source="post: 3961999" data-attributes="member: 3649">Hopefully this will simply spur the dismissal of the arcane/divine divide in a later edition. I was hoping it would go away in this one.I can see your point, but in all my years of playing D&D I could probably count less than 40 times I've seen a wizard use a summoning, charm or illusion spell. Usually they're blasters, pure and simple. Defense spell, Fireball, lightning bolt, scorching ray, magic missle in that order, really. Sometimes they whip up a wall or something, but really I could cut out about 80% of the spells in the PHB and they'd never be missed. Sure, in the beginning you might get someone throw out a Knock or Darkness spell, but once they get access to the mass damage spells they never look back.At the same time, we simply don't know what those encounter powers are vs. spells, or what rituals look like.</blockquote>