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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 5290655" data-attributes="member: 4892">Yes, but targeting new gamers does not mean that WotC believes its older fanbase to be undesired, unimportant, or irrelevant. And attempts to locate quotes to the latter effect typically turn up nothing but one's own perceptions on how they viewed the message.I'm not saying you don't feel or shouldn't feel undesired, unimportant, or irrelevant. But that is not something WotC has set out to do. At best you and others are infering such from their statements. Inference can lead to the same problems as assuming.And I don't believe this to be true. They seemed to try to earnestly address issues people were having with the game. They seemed to honestly try to keep the general concept of the game the same while moving into new areas. Asking a company to split its focus and produce two games at once is unrealistic and is by no means a sign that they were leaving anyone behind. I believe they tried their best to make an evocative new edition that players would move to. The fact that you and others did not is no clear sign that they intentionally set out to leave you behind as an acceptable loss. But once you made your decision, what are they to do? Stop their momentum and move backwards (not meaning that 3E is backwards in terms of quality, just in time)? That very well could have been the deathknell of both editions for WotC (other smaller companies like Paizo may have been able to keep going as they are now).From what I've read they had phases in mind since the start. The first was bold revisions to the game that would satisfy common problems people had with 3E and bring in players from outside the TTRPG world. The second phase was to bring back players that had lapsed for a long time due to life circumstances. The third seems to be attracting the retro group and simplfying the rules for additional new players. Yes, they still hope to bring you back into the fold. No one's decisions are necessarily permanent. I saw many people posit that there is nothing WotC could do to bring them back. And only gaming extremists could make such an absolute statement. Although the fact that we're here on ENWorld makes us more hardcore fans than the average player. It also makes us very unrepresentive of the community as a whole.</blockquote>

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