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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 3811040" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>I personally think Erik is voicing a concern I've had as well as far as 4e vs. 3.xe...There are alot of companies who jumped on the bandwagon with the d20 system. I can honestly say I think it was a good thing, but...I also think those same companies are realizing now(though an inkling of it came with 3e to 3.5e) one of the major drawbacks to participating in this. Basically you no longer control your publishing schedule, WotC does. I think alot of companies saw this with the very quick release of 3.5 wherein they had to restructure their products to fit a new rules system after only three years time. Now I doubt many companies enjoyed this shakeup and most probably expected a little more time with the 3.5 rules than has been given.</p><p></p><p>I think what we will see is a major chunk of good companies who supported 3.5 dropping out of the game. Many have alreaddy either published their own rules set (True20, Mongoose's Conan, Mutant's and Maserminds, Lonewolf, etc.), are purely "adventure" companies( which take less work to convert over, though this is dependant on how big the rule changes are.) or are now stuck in a sort of limbo on whether to update, create their own system or just drop d20 (Privateer Press with their excellent Iron Kingdoms setting is one of these.)</p><p></p><p>I keep hearing people talk about WotC having to make money...but so do the publishers who support their system(s), and few if any can afford to publish stuff at the rate WotC can. I honestly don't think the sales of 4e will be as good as 3e, and I think this is the major reason the online push has ramped up...it's a hedging your bets sort of thing. I haven't decided if I'll be switching over yet, it just seems trite and kind of unneeded for me and my group. I would, however, love if a company decided to publish a 3.5/3.75 update rulebook that addressed the major problems with the system.</p><p></p><p>In the end I feel there is no "perfect system" but I feel like in about two to three years after release we'll be talking about all the things that are wrong with 4e. What I'd love to see is WotC stick with a rules system and actually correct and modify the problems with it rather than jettison it for something else every time a new edition comes out. But then again it won't make as much money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 3811040, member: 48965"] I personally think Erik is voicing a concern I've had as well as far as 4e vs. 3.xe...There are alot of companies who jumped on the bandwagon with the d20 system. I can honestly say I think it was a good thing, but...I also think those same companies are realizing now(though an inkling of it came with 3e to 3.5e) one of the major drawbacks to participating in this. Basically you no longer control your publishing schedule, WotC does. I think alot of companies saw this with the very quick release of 3.5 wherein they had to restructure their products to fit a new rules system after only three years time. Now I doubt many companies enjoyed this shakeup and most probably expected a little more time with the 3.5 rules than has been given. I think what we will see is a major chunk of good companies who supported 3.5 dropping out of the game. Many have alreaddy either published their own rules set (True20, Mongoose's Conan, Mutant's and Maserminds, Lonewolf, etc.), are purely "adventure" companies( which take less work to convert over, though this is dependant on how big the rule changes are.) or are now stuck in a sort of limbo on whether to update, create their own system or just drop d20 (Privateer Press with their excellent Iron Kingdoms setting is one of these.) I keep hearing people talk about WotC having to make money...but so do the publishers who support their system(s), and few if any can afford to publish stuff at the rate WotC can. I honestly don't think the sales of 4e will be as good as 3e, and I think this is the major reason the online push has ramped up...it's a hedging your bets sort of thing. I haven't decided if I'll be switching over yet, it just seems trite and kind of unneeded for me and my group. I would, however, love if a company decided to publish a 3.5/3.75 update rulebook that addressed the major problems with the system. In the end I feel there is no "perfect system" but I feel like in about two to three years after release we'll be talking about all the things that are wrong with 4e. What I'd love to see is WotC stick with a rules system and actually correct and modify the problems with it rather than jettison it for something else every time a new edition comes out. But then again it won't make as much money. [/QUOTE]
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