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4E WotC way of saying your fired?
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<blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 3812715" data-attributes="member: 33060"><p>And that's what Wotc is banking on - the perception of invincibility. If no one dares to try them, Wotc wins without ever lifting a finger. 4e is, however, not 3x, which was greated with almost universal cheers. And unlike every other transition between editions (3.0 to 3.5 was so close as to not really count), the OGL gives 3rd parties the opportunity to "call out" Wotc. Undoubtedly, it is easier and safer to go with the 4e flow for a company like Paizo. But that's nothing compared to going heads up with Wotc where even a tie is a huge win. Heck. Even loosing to Wotc but making it a squeeker would be a huge win for Paizo. The keys are how fast can Paizo get a 3.75 out the door, will Necromancer go along and can they convince Goodman Games to also join the Paizo Revolution. Its no sure thing but if the stars aligned, I think Paizo would reveal Wotc to be not quite so invincible as everyone thinks and could "win" even if they didn't KO Wotc. To "win" all Paizo and company need do is tie or make it close. Paizo increases its business by 30% - win. Everything else would be gravy.</p><p></p><p>Since I like beer, I think I'll mosey on over to the Paizo boards. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GVDammerung, post: 3812715, member: 33060"] And that's what Wotc is banking on - the perception of invincibility. If no one dares to try them, Wotc wins without ever lifting a finger. 4e is, however, not 3x, which was greated with almost universal cheers. And unlike every other transition between editions (3.0 to 3.5 was so close as to not really count), the OGL gives 3rd parties the opportunity to "call out" Wotc. Undoubtedly, it is easier and safer to go with the 4e flow for a company like Paizo. But that's nothing compared to going heads up with Wotc where even a tie is a huge win. Heck. Even loosing to Wotc but making it a squeeker would be a huge win for Paizo. The keys are how fast can Paizo get a 3.75 out the door, will Necromancer go along and can they convince Goodman Games to also join the Paizo Revolution. Its no sure thing but if the stars aligned, I think Paizo would reveal Wotc to be not quite so invincible as everyone thinks and could "win" even if they didn't KO Wotc. To "win" all Paizo and company need do is tie or make it close. Paizo increases its business by 30% - win. Everything else would be gravy. Since I like beer, I think I'll mosey on over to the Paizo boards. ;) [/QUOTE]
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