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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Simia Saturnalia" data-source="post: 3813221" data-attributes="member: 53692">I think a drop of 25% in customer base would hurt Wizards, certainly.I think presuming that this ratio of excited 4e fans to angry grognards carries over into the real world is naive at best, particularly in regards to the Great Wheel. My (admittedly anecdotal) experience suggests that most gamers who don't frequent internet gaming forums regularly don't even think about the Great Wheel unless the DM specifically brings up its planes. They think about the Abyss and the Hells, sometimes Gehenna, because that's where fiends come from, and fiends are vulnerable to smites and holy words and they're made out of XP and gold pieces.</blockquote>