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<blockquote data-quote="sirwmholder" data-source="post: 3819138" data-attributes="member: 41558">I'm honestly suprised it too this long for the &quot;sky is falling&quot; crowd to come out... when D&amp;D switched from 3.0 to 3.5 WotC learned a valuable lesson in &quot;Letting publishers know what you are doing 101&quot;.&nbsp; Since most of the WotC staff seems to be loving their jobs right now I can't shake the optimistic feeling that they want to get the material in the hands of those publishers as soon as possible.&nbsp; Look at the good PR they would gain by including 3rd party support right from launch... it just makes good business sense for them to do so.I have no doubt WotC &quot;could&quot; bull rush 4th through without help... though it would hurt... a lot... but they would be able to limp along for a while but eventually get back on track... probably with a restructuring.&nbsp; On a side note... I highly doubt 3.x or 3.75 would take away a 30% market share even if published by Paizo.The right move for WotC would be to get those design documents in the hands of the 3rd party publishers well before release.&nbsp; If 4th does indeed fracture the fan base having that 3rd party support will keep the majority playing D&amp;D... despite everything else.It's still far too early to call for Doom and Gloom.&nbsp; Personally, I'm in favor of 4th... I like what I've seen and as an amatuer game design I'm curious to know how they are resolving various issuses that came up in 3.x.**NOTE: I only read the first page... it just rubbed me the wrong way.Good gaming,William Holder</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sirwmholder, post: 3819138, member: 41558"] I'm honestly suprised it too this long for the "sky is falling" crowd to come out... when D&D switched from 3.0 to 3.5 WotC learned a valuable lesson in "Letting publishers know what you are doing 101". Since most of the WotC staff seems to be loving their jobs right now I can't shake the optimistic feeling that they want to get the material in the hands of those publishers as soon as possible. Look at the good PR they would gain by including 3rd party support right from launch... it just makes good business sense for them to do so. I have no doubt WotC "could" bull rush 4th through without help... though it would hurt... a lot... but they would be able to limp along for a while but eventually get back on track... probably with a restructuring. On a side note... I highly doubt 3.x or 3.75 would take away a 30% market share even if published by Paizo. The right move for WotC would be to get those design documents in the hands of the 3rd party publishers well before release. If 4th does indeed fracture the fan base having that 3rd party support will keep the majority playing D&D... despite everything else. It's still far too early to call for Doom and Gloom. Personally, I'm in favor of 4th... I like what I've seen and as an amatuer game design I'm curious to know how they are resolving various issuses that came up in 3.x. **NOTE: I only read the first page... it just rubbed me the wrong way. Good gaming, William Holder [/QUOTE]

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