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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 5294803" data-attributes="member: 5143">See my above post for a couple examples as to why that was.  But it wasn't JUST that.  In 2e there weren't rules for a LOT of things.  How grappling worked changed from DM to DM.  There were rules for weapon type vs armor type but they were optional and most DMs didn't use it.  Some DMs used the optional rules from Skills and Tactics, others didn't.  Some DMs allowed kits, others didn't.  Each and every rule was optional.  Mostly because a lot of them made no sense or were completely broken.  Some kits made you easily twice as powerful as a normal member of your class.  It was all a hodge-podge of optional rules...some of which contradicted others so you had to choose which of the 3 rules for something you'd use.But leading up to 3e coming out there were articles being posted that said "Unlike 2e, we have rules for the things you wanted rules for and had to make up yourself" and "Unlike 2e, we playtested the rules for balance and tried not to balance a combat advantage with a role playing disadvantage".And when we got the rules, they were well organized, there was ONE rule for each thing, they appeared balanced, and there didn't appear to be any reason to ban anything outright.  Even in play, most things appeared to work fine.  So, it was rare that a DM felt the need to change or ban anything.  It became the exception instead of the rule.  It's so much easier to not have to constantly make rulings about stuff.I think WOTC managed to develop trust amongst the DMs by putting out fairly balanced stuff that didn't horribly unbalance people's campaigns and rules that made more sense and caused less headaches than 2e.  Once you have that trust, most DMs are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt with a new book that comes out.  Why not let players take that cool new class they want?  WOTC hasn't published anything TOO broken in the past, I doubt they will this time.Players got used to asking for stuff and hearing yes.But there's a side effect of having rules that are the default.  You need to consciously say "No" to each rule you don't like.  In 2e there were no rules for what to do when grappling someone.  So whatever the DM said went.  There were no rules on how many magic items you should have by the time you were level 10.  Nor how powerful they should be.  If your DM never gave you more than +1 items by that level, then that's what you should have.Amongst our group of friends, the prevailing philosophy was one of "Well, if the designers of the game say you should have a +2 item by level X then there is probably a good reason for it.  Likely you won't have enough pluses to hit to defeat monsters or you'll come across monsters that require a +2 weapon to hit by them.  Better to leave it as is in case there was a good reason for it."  The math behind the game was so arcane and convoluted that no one could figure out exactly WHY some rules were there...but they trusted WOTC that there was good reasons for them.</blockquote>

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