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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Barastrondo" data-source="post: 5253645" data-attributes="member: 3820">Well, if demons who don't have the patience for finework is a logical extrapolation of the 2e/3e concept that demons represent the embodiment of Chaotic Evil, demons that have the patience for finework is a logical extrapolation of the 4e concept that demons are corrupted primordial forces that work as antithesis to the other beings in the universe. With alignment no longer a major axis around which everything rotates, the differentiations come from things like "immortal vs. elemental" rather than "ultimate law vs. ultimate chaos." Personally, I think there's nothing about the concept of "corrupted elemental" that precludes the ability to work in clockwork, as long as the elemental conception is varied enough to allow for, say, metal elementals. Of course, I prefer demons as aberrations instead. (I'm not that enthralled by the Far Realm or the Underdark, so demonic aberrations suit the kind of things I like to do.) Now to be perfectly fair, if I didn't know anything about clockwork horrors and someone suggested "clockworks designed by infernals," my first thought would be that they'd be animated torture devices created by devils: clockwork tormentors, if you will. But if the concept of clockwork horrors is important, and the horde-genocide-swarming-destroyer archetype is what's vital, then yeah, I'd look at demons too.And... now I am probably going to start brainstorming clockwork tormentors and a lord of Hell that would create them. These discussions go to profitable places!</blockquote>

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