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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 5695635" data-attributes="member: 20323">Hey we must be on the same wavelength, I just posted about an abjurer class! Or you're actually scrying on me... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I only remember one 2e game with a diviner who was great at scry-teleport and buffing, but once we were in combat he had to rely on evocations. Is there something I'm missing that made divination useful in combat?Btw, You described the class as both leader and controller in separate sentences. No real need to define it, just pointing that out.Cool inversion of warlock's pact, and great flavor. &quot;He's dead, you totally called it!&quot; &quot;I also foretold he would rise again.&quot; *coup de grace* &quot;What was that?&quot;What's the flavor behind this one? I'm not getting how it's divination.If you're going for an old school vibe, leave the blaster powers/buffs out.I would argue this should be a core class feature, a kind of floating invisible eye (not unlike the psionic wild talent) which you have line of sight, and possibly line of effect, from. With line of effect you'd need to be careful.I think the diviner should have ways to &quot;pass the buck&quot; with the sustain minor, like accomplishing a certain action which serves to sustain the spell without the diviner needing to use a minor action. This also gives his spells more longevity if he's stunned or KO'd.Something akin to the 3e scholar cleric (I forget what it's called) and the 4e scholar theme - a penetrating glimpse into a creature's secrets.And a way to swap out spells. &quot;Oh yes, of course I had Otiluke's Questionable Humor&quot; prepared!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 5695635, member: 20323"] Hey we must be on the same wavelength, I just posted about an abjurer class! Or you're actually scrying on me... ;) I only remember one 2e game with a diviner who was great at scry-teleport and buffing, but once we were in combat he had to rely on evocations. Is there something I'm missing that made divination useful in combat? Btw, You described the class as both leader and controller in separate sentences. No real need to define it, just pointing that out. Cool inversion of warlock's pact, and great flavor. "He's dead, you totally called it!" "I also foretold he would rise again." *coup de grace* "What was that?" What's the flavor behind this one? I'm not getting how it's divination. If you're going for an old school vibe, leave the blaster powers/buffs out. I would argue this should be a core class feature, a kind of floating invisible eye (not unlike the psionic wild talent) which you have line of sight, and possibly line of effect, from. With line of effect you'd need to be careful. I think the diviner should have ways to "pass the buck" with the sustain minor, like accomplishing a certain action which serves to sustain the spell without the diviner needing to use a minor action. This also gives his spells more longevity if he's stunned or KO'd. Something akin to the 3e scholar cleric (I forget what it's called) and the 4e scholar theme - a penetrating glimpse into a creature's secrets. And a way to swap out spells. "Oh yes, of course I had Otiluke's Questionable Humor" prepared!" [/QUOTE]

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