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<blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 3961034" data-attributes="member: 1129"><p> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>NO MORE LEVEL DRAIN </strong> (Good)<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>NO MORE ABILITY DRAIN </strong> (Good)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>NO MORE ETHICAL ALIGNMENTS </strong> (Mark in the about time column)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>SNEAK ATTACK ON ANYTHING </strong> (Good)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>FASTER GAME MECHANICS & NPC CREATION </strong> (Bad)<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>NO MORE EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF MAGIC ITEMS </strong> (Depends on setting)<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>NO MORE (or less) VANCIAN CASTING </strong> (Good)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> <strong>NO MORE SPELL SCHOOLS (bad?) FOCUS I</strong>TEMS (Need more info)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>SKILL SYSTEM REVAMP </strong> (Need more info)<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> <strong>BASIC RACES CHANGES </strong> (bad)<br /> Not bad in that I think Dragonborn and Tielfling are the essence of evil but I think that the core book could actually use fewer races and build more examples of role playing, combat, character building advice, etc... as opposed to having different flavors of elf, etc...<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Forgotten Realms Timeline Advance (Bad)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Forgotten Realms Novels still cannon (Bad)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Racial Pantheons getting the boot (Bad)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">No introductory cost on the core books (Bad)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Core price increase on all books with all books being same price without being same page length (Bad)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Playtested less then previous edition (Bad)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Elimination of Prestige Classes (Depends on if they're actually gone or just renamed into the new paths)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Effort to actually balance feats (Good)<br /> Never understood Monte's take on rewarding players who don't take sucky feats, especially as some of those sucky feats were built into requisities for PrCs latter on.<br /> </li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoeGKushner, post: 3961034, member: 1129"] [list=1] [*][B]NO MORE LEVEL DRAIN [/B] (Good) [*][B]NO MORE ABILITY DRAIN [/B] (Good) [*][B]NO MORE ETHICAL ALIGNMENTS [/B] (Mark in the about time column) [*][B]SNEAK ATTACK ON ANYTHING [/B] (Good) [*][B]FASTER GAME MECHANICS & NPC CREATION [/B] (Bad) [*][B]NO MORE EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF MAGIC ITEMS [/B] (Depends on setting) [*][B]NO MORE (or less) VANCIAN CASTING [/B] (Good) [*] [B]NO MORE SPELL SCHOOLS (bad?) FOCUS I[/B]TEMS (Need more info) [*][B]SKILL SYSTEM REVAMP [/B] (Need more info) [*] [B]BASIC RACES CHANGES [/B] (bad) Not bad in that I think Dragonborn and Tielfling are the essence of evil but I think that the core book could actually use fewer races and build more examples of role playing, combat, character building advice, etc... as opposed to having different flavors of elf, etc... [*]Forgotten Realms Timeline Advance (Bad) [*]Forgotten Realms Novels still cannon (Bad) [*]Racial Pantheons getting the boot (Bad) [*]No introductory cost on the core books (Bad) [*]Core price increase on all books with all books being same price without being same page length (Bad) [*]Playtested less then previous edition (Bad) [*]Elimination of Prestige Classes (Depends on if they're actually gone or just renamed into the new paths) [*]Effort to actually balance feats (Good) Never understood Monte's take on rewarding players who don't take sucky feats, especially as some of those sucky feats were built into requisities for PrCs latter on. [/list] [/QUOTE]
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