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Message: <blockquote data-quote="biotech66" data-source="post: 4271825" data-attributes="member: 60725">White Wolf maybe?Now, 4.0 (we all know 4.5 is coming, its just when) is still quite role playing intensive.  I like the new skill challenge system.  I think it makes social interactions easier for DM's to give EXP for and allows for Role playing intensive players to take center stage.In the previous edition, I think it was more combat oriented then 4.0.  Combat is still a big part, but the new challenge system at least makes talking to a noble lord easier then one roll, one failure, and the bard is worthless now.  This also give skill based characters a chance to be a bigger part then before as those characters were important, but again one role and they single handedly may have disarmed the entire temple while the fighter gets all the glory.For people who only want crazy role playing with almost no combat, I'd go white wolf.  They tend to make games that almost much more emphasis on role playing with much less combat.  Its my opinion however.But, I do see some light at the end of the tunnel.  For all those out there who think there is no role playing or the game is too simplified in 4.0, keep yelling!  given enough time (5 years).  WotC will take this into consideration and make 4.5 with half of the original 3.5 rules back in!  Or even better, there will be DnD and Advanced DnD!</blockquote>