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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dragonbait" data-source="post: 4271838" data-attributes="member: 29182">I GMed for a number of females with different tastes. Almost all enjoyed the minis aspect of a game (finding an appropriate one and painting them) and had no complaints about minatures, movement and so on. Granted, the RP was what they really wanted and that can be provided no matter the system. I have a feeling that new person you tried to introduce would have been put off once any game went into combat. I've experienced that: heavy RPers who get bored quickly once you have to start rolling dice.As for minis,mats, and the like: If you were able to play 3E without them that you chould be able to play 4E without them. I can't imagine playing 3E without know exactly how many feet enemies are away, if I can take a 5' step away or not, and if I can charge without being blocked, and so on. There is more movement per round in 4E, yes, but less concern about obstructions and I'm assuming non-mat-players have an excellent mental-grid after all those years of playing without them in 3E.</blockquote>