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<blockquote data-quote="ryryguy" data-source="post: 4325311" data-attributes="member: 64945"><p>Chimera:</p><p></p><p>Your 3e bard sounds like he would be best in 4e as a Warlord. They are totally about inspiring people through oratory. (The one big problem you might have is that Warlords attack powers are purely melee, if your 3e bard was a ranged attacker.)</p><p></p><p>Also, if your 4e conversion is going to fill the Leader role (either as a Warlord or as saric's bard), he's going to have a healing class feature - Warlord's Inspiring Words or saric's Bard's Healing Hymn. That is just the way it is in 4e - for a Leader Bard to have <em>the potential</em> to be as good as a healer as a cleric or warlord, he has to have this feature. If you don't want your character to be heal focused, you can always make sure not to choose any of the other attack or utility powers that heal.</p><p></p><p>In general, I'd recommend that you try to let go of the notion that your 4e conversion carry over as many of the 3e bard features as closely as possible. (Note: I'm not trying to be a jerk telling you that you're having "wrong fun" or anything like that: this is advice honestly intended to increase your enjoyment of your character in 4e.) It's just that 4e is different enough that trying to carry over the 3e stuff too closely is very likely to lead to a broken character, in both "too gimped" and "too uber" senses. You can always change the flavor of things to match what you like; if you did decide to go with Warlord mechanics, there's no reason your character couldn't call himself a "bard" if he wanted, say that his "inspiring words" are often rhymed, and so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ryryguy, post: 4325311, member: 64945"] Chimera: Your 3e bard sounds like he would be best in 4e as a Warlord. They are totally about inspiring people through oratory. (The one big problem you might have is that Warlords attack powers are purely melee, if your 3e bard was a ranged attacker.) Also, if your 4e conversion is going to fill the Leader role (either as a Warlord or as saric's bard), he's going to have a healing class feature - Warlord's Inspiring Words or saric's Bard's Healing Hymn. That is just the way it is in 4e - for a Leader Bard to have [I]the potential[/I] to be as good as a healer as a cleric or warlord, he has to have this feature. If you don't want your character to be heal focused, you can always make sure not to choose any of the other attack or utility powers that heal. In general, I'd recommend that you try to let go of the notion that your 4e conversion carry over as many of the 3e bard features as closely as possible. (Note: I'm not trying to be a jerk telling you that you're having "wrong fun" or anything like that: this is advice honestly intended to increase your enjoyment of your character in 4e.) It's just that 4e is different enough that trying to carry over the 3e stuff too closely is very likely to lead to a broken character, in both "too gimped" and "too uber" senses. You can always change the flavor of things to match what you like; if you did decide to go with Warlord mechanics, there's no reason your character couldn't call himself a "bard" if he wanted, say that his "inspiring words" are often rhymed, and so on. [/QUOTE]
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