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<blockquote data-quote="ryryguy" data-source="post: 4325846" data-attributes="member: 64945">I see... well the knowledge aspect of the bard is not well captured by the Warlord class, it's true.&nbsp; I guess you could take a bunch of skill feats but that'd be a little bit weak.&nbsp; Depending on how you and your DM feel, you could take something away from the Warlord (some armor and weapon proficiencies?) in exchange for more knowledge and social skills.&nbsp; Still, that wouldn't really give you that &quot;bardic knowledge&quot; feel where the bard had some special unique lore abilities, and honestly I don't think saric's Bard's +2 to knowledges really does it either.&nbsp; It'll be interesting to see what the official 4e Bard has along these lines, if anything.The good news is that healing is a choice in 4e, too.&nbsp; You can make a cleric or warlord that focuses entirely on combat or buffs with just that class feature giving you two heals per combat.&nbsp; The same should be true of the bard class. But in 4e at least if you do choose to be a healing bard, you should actually be able to be good at it.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="ryryguy, post: 4325846, member: 64945"] I see... well the knowledge aspect of the bard is not well captured by the Warlord class, it's true. I guess you could take a bunch of skill feats but that'd be a little bit weak. Depending on how you and your DM feel, you could take something away from the Warlord (some armor and weapon proficiencies?) in exchange for more knowledge and social skills. Still, that wouldn't really give you that "bardic knowledge" feel where the bard had some special unique lore abilities, and honestly I don't think saric's Bard's +2 to knowledges really does it either. It'll be interesting to see what the official 4e Bard has along these lines, if anything. The good news is that healing is a choice in 4e, too. You can make a cleric or warlord that focuses entirely on combat or buffs with just that class feature giving you two heals per combat. The same should be true of the bard class. But in 4e at least if you do choose to be a healing bard, you should actually be able to be good at it. ;) [/QUOTE]

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