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<blockquote data-quote="saric" data-source="post: 4475687" data-attributes="member: 60567">Well the thing is, I designed the bard to follow in line with the other two classes. I'll admit things are still needing to be panned out. And the reason I didn't put the bard in a pure support role is because frankly, its boring.In 3rd edition a bard was just that. Started singing, kept on singing, and occasionally cast a spell. Unless you knew what you were doing (and had a few splatbooks to help), you couldn't be an effective melee combatant. The thing was, bardic music took up actions to continue singing (not all the time), and I didn't want to shoehorn the bard into sustaining bardic music every fight. This would be akin to a cleric/paladin in 4th edition sustaining turn undead or any of the other channel divinity powers.The cleric despite its overpowered nature in 3rd edition could be relegated to a pure support role and did it quite well. Typically at the expense of offense. However, in 4th edition they can now do other things than just heal. Healing and attacking is actually feasible and encouraged. I instilled this sentiment into the current bard. This bard is semi-controller, leader who aids his allies from time to time and a decent melee combatant.Either way, I thank you for your feedback, since I like to look at different views of the class for better balance. Take it easy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="saric, post: 4475687, member: 60567"] Well the thing is, I designed the bard to follow in line with the other two classes. I'll admit things are still needing to be panned out. And the reason I didn't put the bard in a pure support role is because frankly, its boring. In 3rd edition a bard was just that. Started singing, kept on singing, and occasionally cast a spell. Unless you knew what you were doing (and had a few splatbooks to help), you couldn't be an effective melee combatant. The thing was, bardic music took up actions to continue singing (not all the time), and I didn't want to shoehorn the bard into sustaining bardic music every fight. This would be akin to a cleric/paladin in 4th edition sustaining turn undead or any of the other channel divinity powers. The cleric despite its overpowered nature in 3rd edition could be relegated to a pure support role and did it quite well. Typically at the expense of offense. However, in 4th edition they can now do other things than just heal. Healing and attacking is actually feasible and encouraged. I instilled this sentiment into the current bard. This bard is semi-controller, leader who aids his allies from time to time and a decent melee combatant. Either way, I thank you for your feedback, since I like to look at different views of the class for better balance. Take it easy. [/QUOTE]

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