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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack99" data-source="post: 4420268" data-attributes="member: 53135">Sorry, but you seemed to have missed the point of all of this. You said that a charisma build is not viable because most of your powers will be ranged cha-based powers. I demonstrated that you can fill all your power slots with only cha-based powers and have only 2 ranged powers, and thus perform your job as defender quite well. Yes, you won't have a great str for OA attacks, there are ways to get around that problem as well, as I am sure you know. Sure you have less choices. But that was not the point you made. You said a cha-based paladin couldn't perform his duty as a defender, because he would be drawing OA's. The power list quite clearly shows it is possible to build one with only 2 dailies out of 10 combat powers being ranged. You were wrong.Now is the build as  balanced and flexible as others? Maybe not, but it is pretty darn effective, in my limited experience.And what is this none-sense about not being able to chose a daily, just because you only have ranged choices? Let me ask you - do you start every combat next to the monsters? If the answer is not yes, then the paladin has plenty of use of a ranged power or 2 (hell, maybe even 3 or 4).Cheers</blockquote>