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<blockquote data-quote="Paraxis" data-source="post: 6535287" data-attributes="member: 13009">I don't think you understand the conceit of minions as they are in 4e, there were a ton of level 28 minions in the darksun book if I remember right, and plenty of them 20+ throughout all the books.&nbsp; They hit hard and had good defenses, the point of them was by giving them 1 hit point each you could use multiple tough opponents in big set piece fights that were sure to go down in one hit, so you didn't have to keep track of hit points on them.It was about their role in the fight, if the the same monster was encounter a few levels lower and leading a group of bad guys he could be stated up as a solo boss monster.In the worlds of 4e, it was not about simulating reality or consistency it was about what was fun.&nbsp; Problem is for some people simulation of reality and consistency is part of the fun.I guess an easy way to think of minions as any other monster with the following added.Weakness: (Minion) this creature takes +1,000 damage when attacked by player characters who are equal to or higher in level than it's CR.Because it is not like a level 28 minion dragon in 4e, would stub his toe and explode.&nbsp; Minion status was there to represent that he was easy to dispatch by team hero.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Paraxis, post: 6535287, member: 13009"] I don't think you understand the conceit of minions as they are in 4e, there were a ton of level 28 minions in the darksun book if I remember right, and plenty of them 20+ throughout all the books. They hit hard and had good defenses, the point of them was by giving them 1 hit point each you could use multiple tough opponents in big set piece fights that were sure to go down in one hit, so you didn't have to keep track of hit points on them. It was about their role in the fight, if the the same monster was encounter a few levels lower and leading a group of bad guys he could be stated up as a solo boss monster. In the worlds of 4e, it was not about simulating reality or consistency it was about what was fun. Problem is for some people simulation of reality and consistency is part of the fun. I guess an easy way to think of minions as any other monster with the following added. Weakness: (Minion) this creature takes +1,000 damage when attacked by player characters who are equal to or higher in level than it's CR. Because it is not like a level 28 minion dragon in 4e, would stub his toe and explode. Minion status was there to represent that he was easy to dispatch by team hero. [/QUOTE]

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