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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 5624209" data-attributes="member: 3424"><p>And what I'm saying is that you don't need a 5th edition to do this. As I said in an earlier post, it's a natural progression from feat-based multiclassing and hybrids.</p><p></p><p>I think WotC has come to the point where there are no major balance issues between the classes. It is also addressing minor differences in balance by coming up with new options (as it recently did for Strength clerics) or issuing errata (as it recently did for PH1 warlocks and wizards).</p><p></p><p>Although it started the edition fairly conservatively with all classes pretty much adhering to the AEDU structure, it has experimented with variant approaches in PH3 and Essentials.</p><p></p><p>I think the next step could be to develop classes that can choose between constant abilities and at-will, encounter and daily attack powers. Many classes already allow some trade-off between encounter and daily utility powers, or even at-will, encounter and daily utility powers. Doing the same for attack powers would be a logical next step.</p><p></p><p>After that is done, it would be possible to unite the Weaponmaster (AEDU), the Knight and the Slayer under an umbrella Fighter class, with the player being able to choose between (say) a constant damage bonus OR an encounter attack power OR a daily attack power at various points as the PC levels up. If there are minor discrepancies, e.g. the Weaponmaster fighter does not gain an ability at 4th level, while the Knight and the Slayer do), this can be addressed in errata.</p><p></p><p>All in all, since all this can be done within the 4E framework, I really don't see why a 5th edition is necessary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 5624209, member: 3424"] And what I'm saying is that you don't need a 5th edition to do this. As I said in an earlier post, it's a natural progression from feat-based multiclassing and hybrids. I think WotC has come to the point where there are no major balance issues between the classes. It is also addressing minor differences in balance by coming up with new options (as it recently did for Strength clerics) or issuing errata (as it recently did for PH1 warlocks and wizards). Although it started the edition fairly conservatively with all classes pretty much adhering to the AEDU structure, it has experimented with variant approaches in PH3 and Essentials. I think the next step could be to develop classes that can choose between constant abilities and at-will, encounter and daily attack powers. Many classes already allow some trade-off between encounter and daily utility powers, or even at-will, encounter and daily utility powers. Doing the same for attack powers would be a logical next step. After that is done, it would be possible to unite the Weaponmaster (AEDU), the Knight and the Slayer under an umbrella Fighter class, with the player being able to choose between (say) a constant damage bonus OR an encounter attack power OR a daily attack power at various points as the PC levels up. If there are minor discrepancies, e.g. the Weaponmaster fighter does not gain an ability at 4th level, while the Knight and the Slayer do), this can be addressed in errata. All in all, since all this can be done within the 4E framework, I really don't see why a 5th edition is necessary. [/QUOTE]
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