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<blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 6073950" data-attributes="member: 518"><p>Yeah I don't know. But I am in my 40s, so....Started with the Brown Books in 77. Still use them and love them. Like 4E better than 3.x and PF. Have run 3.X, 4E, PF(BB), C&C and OD&D/S&W Comp over the past year and a half (along with a handful of 5E playtest sessions). Fave version of the game is Moldvay Cook Marsh B/X and using what I need from the LBBs.</p><p></p><p>If its good its good. If it fits my classic (cliche?)old school style, is table fast, and doesn't require lots of homework and essays as the game approaches 5th level and above It works for me. I really dig 4E. My initial 4E group back in 08/09 did not. I even made up O.A.F and the Rouseketeers, I like(d) it so much. Converted recent OD&D campaign (pre ToT FR) to 4E and just bought most of the Essentials stuff with XMAS gift cards to use. Shame that WOTC did not publish Essentials in a 3 HC book format to begin with, I think 4E would have fared much better. I have eliminated the grid because none of us like it, and thus eliminated/re wrote powers/bits that rely on grid. Game plays like Moldvay/Cook/Marsh on Steroids (especially as its just HotFL for races and classes). Things are just more Beefy now (like Strongbad's arm) than they were in the 70s/Early 80s. We have lots of fun. Feels plenty like D&D to me. In some ways far moreso than 3/PF, 2E or even AD&D ever did. </p><p></p><p>:shrug:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JeffB, post: 6073950, member: 518"] Yeah I don't know. But I am in my 40s, so....Started with the Brown Books in 77. Still use them and love them. Like 4E better than 3.x and PF. Have run 3.X, 4E, PF(BB), C&C and OD&D/S&W Comp over the past year and a half (along with a handful of 5E playtest sessions). Fave version of the game is Moldvay Cook Marsh B/X and using what I need from the LBBs. If its good its good. If it fits my classic (cliche?)old school style, is table fast, and doesn't require lots of homework and essays as the game approaches 5th level and above It works for me. I really dig 4E. My initial 4E group back in 08/09 did not. I even made up O.A.F and the Rouseketeers, I like(d) it so much. Converted recent OD&D campaign (pre ToT FR) to 4E and just bought most of the Essentials stuff with XMAS gift cards to use. Shame that WOTC did not publish Essentials in a 3 HC book format to begin with, I think 4E would have fared much better. I have eliminated the grid because none of us like it, and thus eliminated/re wrote powers/bits that rely on grid. Game plays like Moldvay/Cook/Marsh on Steroids (especially as its just HotFL for races and classes). Things are just more Beefy now (like Strongbad's arm) than they were in the 70s/Early 80s. We have lots of fun. Feels plenty like D&D to me. In some ways far moreso than 3/PF, 2E or even AD&D ever did. :shrug: [/QUOTE]
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