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<blockquote data-quote="Fox Lee" data-source="post: 6075000" data-attributes="member: 4346"><p>Hey OP, I'll back you up on that. I think 4e is great. It's tight, it's self-contained, it's cinematic, it draws a clean line between its rules and its fluff, and it's downright refreshing for those of us who prefer the modern, pulpy approach to fantasy instead of the classic approach. Sure, it has its flaws, but it's still the best-defined and best-balanced tabletop game I have ever met - and that, in my opinion, provide the strongest base upon which to roleplay, tell stories, and build your own worlds (and the hell with anyone who wants to pretend that <a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/26203097/The_Stormwind_Fallacy_%28repost%29" target="_blank">The Stormwind Fallacy</a> isn't exactly that - a fallacy). Of course it's not to everybody's tastes, but most "criticisms" I've read of 4e are simply a matter of opinion - like wanting a more realistic game, or a more "classic" fantasy world - and don't address any actual <em>problems</em> with the game.</p><p></p><p>And for crying out loud, are Dragonborn really worth complaining about guys? I don't like them at all, so you know what I did? I dropped them from my setting and NOBODY CARED. Worked out great.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fox Lee, post: 6075000, member: 4346"] Hey OP, I'll back you up on that. I think 4e is great. It's tight, it's self-contained, it's cinematic, it draws a clean line between its rules and its fluff, and it's downright refreshing for those of us who prefer the modern, pulpy approach to fantasy instead of the classic approach. Sure, it has its flaws, but it's still the best-defined and best-balanced tabletop game I have ever met - and that, in my opinion, provide the strongest base upon which to roleplay, tell stories, and build your own worlds (and the hell with anyone who wants to pretend that [url=http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/26203097/The_Stormwind_Fallacy_%28repost%29]The Stormwind Fallacy[/url] isn't exactly that - a fallacy). Of course it's not to everybody's tastes, but most "criticisms" I've read of 4e are simply a matter of opinion - like wanting a more realistic game, or a more "classic" fantasy world - and don't address any actual [i]problems[/i] with the game. And for crying out loud, are Dragonborn really worth complaining about guys? I don't like them at all, so you know what I did? I dropped them from my setting and NOBODY CARED. Worked out great. [/QUOTE]
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