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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 6075221" data-attributes="member: 58416">I think, in hindsight, I might now create the gondolas without cables at all.  Instead, they would float on some sort of magic current which propelled them and caused them to hover.  That seems more in line with some of the assumptions of 4E.  I had considered that originally, but I did want breaking the enemy's gondola to be possible.The skill challenge idea is interesting, but I have some issues with how similar ideas have worked out in the past.  In particular, one of the early pieces of advice for how to add a skill challenge to a combat was by using a trap which needed to be disabled.  Unfortunately, what I found was that it rarely made sense for the PCs to engage in the skill challenge, and it was often far better (and faster) for the PCs to simply use brute force to smash the trap.  I feel as though I'd have to rule that doing damage to the object in question without engaging in the skill challenge simply doesn't work, but I'm not normally comfortable with the idea of arbitrarily making something immune to damage.  I don't have a problem with saying a certain kind of attack or tactic is ineffective, but I dislike saying the only way to interact with something is by using the one specific way (skill challenge) that I as DM have decided upon.  It's ok to me to say something works poorly, but to say that nothing at all has a possibility of working isn't a style I usually like.  You're right though.  My players didn't mind too much at the time.  I just had wanted to try something which I otherwise wouldn't have in previous editions.  4E seemed to encourage the idea when I was designing it.  In actually play, I expected things to pan out in a manner which was more dramatic.  I had more success with later attempts at similar things, but it took me quite a while until I got to a point where I felt comfortable being as creative as I normally like to be with encounters.  Once I got to that point, I had a lot of fun.</blockquote>

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