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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6075304"><p>Sure, but Pathfinder's success is less from it's refinement of the game and more from it's support for the system with adventures and creative new additions. Pathfinder's corrections to 3.X's flaws are largely contained to a handful of books. Clearly Pathfinder produces a lot more than this and isn't hemorrhaging money so those other things must be doing quite well. The fact that any given Pathfinder adventure is fully compatible with 3.X and with a little tweaks, almost any other system lends credibility to the idea that the market is more interested in support than errata.</p><p></p><p></p><p>People change, tastes change. The old-schoolers would still whine it's too new-school, people who want something fresh would complain it's stale, people who don't like D&D would complain it's too D&D for them(which is a complaint I've seriously seen here). </p><p></p><p>Dissent is healthy, I totally agree. But to be fair, as much as I started with 3.5, enjoyed 3.5 and play a lot of 3.5...I wouldn't trade 4e for a more fixed 3.5.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No of course not. But sometimes I swear in discussions even here you could give someone the perfect D&D, made exactly to their specifications, and they'd complain it wasn't the right shade of chartreuse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6075304"] Sure, but Pathfinder's success is less from it's refinement of the game and more from it's support for the system with adventures and creative new additions. Pathfinder's corrections to 3.X's flaws are largely contained to a handful of books. Clearly Pathfinder produces a lot more than this and isn't hemorrhaging money so those other things must be doing quite well. The fact that any given Pathfinder adventure is fully compatible with 3.X and with a little tweaks, almost any other system lends credibility to the idea that the market is more interested in support than errata. People change, tastes change. The old-schoolers would still whine it's too new-school, people who want something fresh would complain it's stale, people who don't like D&D would complain it's too D&D for them(which is a complaint I've seriously seen here). Dissent is healthy, I totally agree. But to be fair, as much as I started with 3.5, enjoyed 3.5 and play a lot of 3.5...I wouldn't trade 4e for a more fixed 3.5. No of course not. But sometimes I swear in discussions even here you could give someone the perfect D&D, made exactly to their specifications, and they'd complain it wasn't the right shade of chartreuse. [/QUOTE]
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