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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6075354"><p>Sales of core books are supported by a desire for a more refined product. But the sales of the core books alone do not sustain the Pathfinder franchise. I gave you an apparently different answer because you asked an apparently different question. The original claim was that Pathfinder was selling quite well. The secondary claim was that Core books for Pathfinder show high sales. The causes of these can easily stem from two different reasons. Considering that that non-core splat and adventure books make up a significantly large sum of Pathfinder products than the Core books do, it's reasonable to surmise that there's a significant demand for them beyond simply a big book of rules corrections(which is what I largely find Pathfinder's Core books to be).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, in which case I fully anticipate WOTC death squads to break down their doors and burn their old books.</p><p></p><p>It is a leisure activity though some people take it far too seriously. Few products last forever(even Twinkies die apparently!) so it's fairly unreasonable to expect WOTC to make one edition of D&D and then stop. The fact that you don't like the new edition means nothing. You've still got the edition you enjoy, so there should be absolutely no harm in there being a new one. If you do enjoy it, great, now there are two editions you enjoy, or more! </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying Wizards rebuilt the system with the intent of greater enjoyment either. I'm suggesting Wizards rebuilt the system out of sheer necessity. I'm suggesting that there was so much clutter and gunk piling up and spilling over from edition to edition that the outlook of continuing that trend was dire, the game would eventually become so convoluted as to be worthless and irreparable. So Wizards built a new system with the goal not of making a singular, superior game, but of clearing the waters for the future of the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did. Browse through this thread. There's 20 pages here and I'm not really interested in re-skimming it and re-quoting all my rebukes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm generalizing gamers based on trends and experiences.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6075354"] Sales of core books are supported by a desire for a more refined product. But the sales of the core books alone do not sustain the Pathfinder franchise. I gave you an apparently different answer because you asked an apparently different question. The original claim was that Pathfinder was selling quite well. The secondary claim was that Core books for Pathfinder show high sales. The causes of these can easily stem from two different reasons. Considering that that non-core splat and adventure books make up a significantly large sum of Pathfinder products than the Core books do, it's reasonable to surmise that there's a significant demand for them beyond simply a big book of rules corrections(which is what I largely find Pathfinder's Core books to be). Sure, in which case I fully anticipate WOTC death squads to break down their doors and burn their old books. It is a leisure activity though some people take it far too seriously. Few products last forever(even Twinkies die apparently!) so it's fairly unreasonable to expect WOTC to make one edition of D&D and then stop. The fact that you don't like the new edition means nothing. You've still got the edition you enjoy, so there should be absolutely no harm in there being a new one. If you do enjoy it, great, now there are two editions you enjoy, or more! I'm not saying Wizards rebuilt the system with the intent of greater enjoyment either. I'm suggesting Wizards rebuilt the system out of sheer necessity. I'm suggesting that there was so much clutter and gunk piling up and spilling over from edition to edition that the outlook of continuing that trend was dire, the game would eventually become so convoluted as to be worthless and irreparable. So Wizards built a new system with the goal not of making a singular, superior game, but of clearing the waters for the future of the game. I did. Browse through this thread. There's 20 pages here and I'm not really interested in re-skimming it and re-quoting all my rebukes. I'm generalizing gamers based on trends and experiences. [/QUOTE]
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