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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6075940" data-attributes="member: 7635">As a /major/ Eberron fan, I'll refute them.Tieflings felt the least forced, but 4e's insistance on making them infernal-only crippled some of the cooler ideas with them (such as the raksasha touched). Oh, and don't EVEN get me going on how the deva's raksasha duality screws with their unique niche in Eberron! It was still a shoe-horn. Argonnessen was pretty much humans living in a draconic shadow. The addition of dragonborn upset the balance. It wasn't terrible (as 3e had already crammed in three draconic races already) but they're prominence in the PHB gives the illusion Eberron is full of them. They're the ones who stick out the worst for me. Again, as a optional race in a supplemental book, they'd have been fine in a niche role in Eberron. As one of the core eight? Not so much. It was unnecessary. It reminded me of how Every world in 2e shares Planescape as a cosmology. It smacked of "We made this, we're going to use it regardless of whether it needed it or not."There was a reason only the seven PHB races got marks while even the cool new races of Eberron did not; to encourage players to make choices using the old races too. I saw a lot more halfling clerics due to the mark of healing and human fighters due to the sentinel mark. Getting mark also meant family considerations, status, and issues surrounding that. Marks were family, and you were buying into that when you took the mark. When 4e opened the floodgates on any race getting marks, they stopped being a consideration and became "yet another kewl power". Now half-orcs, dwarves, warforged and goblins could all get the mark of healing and there was no reason for this or why halflings ran House Jorasco. It took something special and unique that those PHB races had and gave to anyone who wanted it, and the setting was poorer for watering them down like that. Dark Sun was much better handled IMHO, but then again they opted for some exclusion (no divine classes) and radical departures from the default assumptions rather than trying to force Athas to use the Astral Sea, Invokers, and Genasi. If I'm using a setting, its because I like the setting. Radical "on a dime" changes is why I didn't like 3e Ravenloft, 2e Realms, or 4e Eberron. I'm using a setting because I like the fluff. If I have to start re-writing or picking-and-choosing what's cannon and what's not, I'm better off homebrewing.</blockquote>

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