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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6076161" data-attributes="member: 463">That's like saying a 3e Fighter can't cast Invisibility - obviously there are some things a highly skilled PC can do that an unskilled PC can't. Athletic challenges that the Epic Fighter struggles to beat won't be beatable by the Epic Wizard's Athletics roll.But the big difference from 3e is that at 20th or 30th level each PC is all-round competent in terms of mundane, below-Tier challenges; the Wizard has at least +15 climb and can shin up a rough cliff ok. He has at least +15 on STR checks and can break open a mundane wooden door, should such a thing present itself. And the Fighter has at least +15 Diplomacy and won't be a tongue-tied clod in social situations. He can't waltz into Hell and charm Asmodeus with his voice like the Bard PC maybe can, but he can court the Princess and if the GM throws a DC 20 Diplomacy check at him he won't be <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfJAHASV8k8" target="_blank">"I'll Get Me Coat"</a> - unlike 3e.Edit: 'Easy' at-level challenges also remain potentially doable across all levels, but do get a bit harder for areas you determinedly minimise competency in.</blockquote>