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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6076250" data-attributes="member: 82106">As far as Nentir Vale and the issue of a '4e default setting' go, I think they were very old-school in their motivations. Like I've said before, from my perspective, prebuilt settings are at least sort of suspect. While 1e was certainly written by Gygax and he had thus the privilege of building his setting's quirks into the rules to some extent none of us expected to use WoG as our setting. It wasn't even published until 5 years after 1e started to come out and maybe artifacts and spell names aside 1e offers no setting hooks by default. Likewise 4e eschews presenting some pre-digested setting, a rather old-school decision. I think they actually failed to carry it far enough, NV and its cosmology are too well integrated into the system, though I feel in a way that is superficial enough that it isn't a big issue. Because NV was built along with the system it doesn't shape the whole thing too much either. Building 4e around FR or around some new setting might have been popular, I don't know, but it would have left the game in some sense less 'mine'. I just don't grasp the nerdrage part about mechanics. I mean I have some nostalgia about old 1e and earlier D&D, sure. OTOH I don't need to go on playing that version forever. Its just game mechanics. The essence of the game is hard to nail down, but its some combination of things, and 1e/2e/3e/4e all share in those things. They aren't the SAME D&D, but its not absurd to call them all D&D, and the same players that used to come to my 1e games in the old days come to my 4e games now. SOMETHING about it is working as 'D&D', whatever that means. Honestly, I'm not sure I could get the same people to play a 4e that wasn't called D&D. I think they play because it is the IDEA of D&D that they're into, not the details of if Fireball is 1d6/level 20'r 1" range/lvl save vs spell for half damage or daily arcane area burst 2 at range 10 INT vs FORT 3d6 fire damage/ half on a miss. The end results are pretty darn similar.</blockquote>

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