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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6076290" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>What do you mean why do I ever buy a new edition? There are fairly obvious reasons. I mean lets consider this at its extreme, the first rules I owned were the LBBs (Original D&D as some call it now). Of course I could have stuck with playing that, but it is a rather primitive game. It has its charm and its advantages, but 1e was a much more usable set of rules, and we all naturally bought at least some 2e stuff over the years. I will note however that I personally never did run 3e or 3.5e and don't own that material. I'm happy to play it, but note that AD&D remained perfectly adequate to many people. I don't have a really strong ideological reason for that either.</p><p></p><p>OTOH I found that 4e worked well, the material was useful, the rules were practical and covered the things that I wanted, so I bought it. My 2e books were pretty shot anyway, and we hadn't played in a while, so it seemed like a reasonably point to go try out something newer. As I say, not being hung up with one specific set of mechanics or fluff being somehow "more D&D" than another there was no ideological problem there. </p><p></p><p>I don't have to accept or not accept other people's tastes. I know when I say that I don't understand their tastes that this tends to translate to "I don't approve and think they should adopt my tastes" but I'm not saying that. Ramathilis need not justify his preferences to me. He will have to live with the fact that I don't understand how his brain works and for me the differences in fluff and mechanics between editions are not a pressing issue. I am running the same campaign world I invented for my Holmes Basic campaign in 1976 or so with 4e. It works fine. It feels like mostly the same world, and there are NPCs in it that were characters played back in that 1976 game. They actually translate reasonably well, at least in concept (and the concepts we were playing with back then were pretty basic).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6076290, member: 82106"] What do you mean why do I ever buy a new edition? There are fairly obvious reasons. I mean lets consider this at its extreme, the first rules I owned were the LBBs (Original D&D as some call it now). Of course I could have stuck with playing that, but it is a rather primitive game. It has its charm and its advantages, but 1e was a much more usable set of rules, and we all naturally bought at least some 2e stuff over the years. I will note however that I personally never did run 3e or 3.5e and don't own that material. I'm happy to play it, but note that AD&D remained perfectly adequate to many people. I don't have a really strong ideological reason for that either. OTOH I found that 4e worked well, the material was useful, the rules were practical and covered the things that I wanted, so I bought it. My 2e books were pretty shot anyway, and we hadn't played in a while, so it seemed like a reasonably point to go try out something newer. As I say, not being hung up with one specific set of mechanics or fluff being somehow "more D&D" than another there was no ideological problem there. I don't have to accept or not accept other people's tastes. I know when I say that I don't understand their tastes that this tends to translate to "I don't approve and think they should adopt my tastes" but I'm not saying that. Ramathilis need not justify his preferences to me. He will have to live with the fact that I don't understand how his brain works and for me the differences in fluff and mechanics between editions are not a pressing issue. I am running the same campaign world I invented for my Holmes Basic campaign in 1976 or so with 4e. It works fine. It feels like mostly the same world, and there are NPCs in it that were characters played back in that 1976 game. They actually translate reasonably well, at least in concept (and the concepts we were playing with back then were pretty basic). [/QUOTE]
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