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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6077187">He's a bit of a dick, but so what?  4e's not the first edition where people thought it was more fun to be funny than take playtime seriously.Absolutely nothing.First, no edition has ever really stopped a player from playing contradictory elements in a character, since ya know, real people can have contradictory elements to themselves.  The previous edition threw so much creative material at everyone it's difficult not to stimulate a desire to be seven different things before breakfast.  Second, table issues are as always, table issues.  If the DM is unwilling to take a stand on what they want to see and the players are unwilling to denounce gamesmanship they find inappropriate then what is anyone to do?  Do you want D&D to have specific rules that say if Timmy and Jimmy don't think Sally's play is appropriate but don't say anything that everyone should get two negative levels?  Should the rules explicitly state when and what kind of behavior should get Johnny kicked from the table and HENCEFORTH BANNED FROM ALL THINGS D&D, SO SAYITH WOTC!!!-I don't really think that benefits anyone.If the GM and the players don't like Frankie's playstyle, then they need to stand up and do something about it.  I don't think every table needs a special, deputized WOTC "Table Cop" to ensure everyone plays in the agreed-upon manner.  Alright, so apparently the questions were rhetorical and some players just suck.  News at 11!</blockquote>

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