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<blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6077347" data-attributes="member: 27160"><p>As I just implied in my answer on the other thread to a post very similar to this one, I think you are missing something. I'll try to explain.</p><p></p><p>In 4e, the <em>fluff</em> doesn't really matter. I could argue the same is true of pretty much any system, but 4e is very up-front about this.</p><p></p><p>But that does not mean that there isn't "theme" bound up (or, at least, potentially bound up) in the actual effects of the powers and the selections of those powers that are available to specific classes.</p><p></p><p>Part of that "theme" is hinted at by the "role" assigned to each class, but even that is only a very rough and approximate guideline. In the end, it's down to each individual class - you have to get to grips with what each class has available to it to understand its "thematic content" in full. And, even then, each class covers quite a spread, so there is variance within as well as between classes.</p><p></p><p>So, "Valiant Strike" seems aptly named for its thematic direction, but if it had been called, say, "Mix It Up!", which would be semi-descriptive and so not beyond the pale, it would still carry some thematic elements of "dude with cojones" because, to use it effectively, you just have to be stuck right into the middle of that swirling melee.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Balesir, post: 6077347, member: 27160"] As I just implied in my answer on the other thread to a post very similar to this one, I think you are missing something. I'll try to explain. In 4e, the [I]fluff[/I] doesn't really matter. I could argue the same is true of pretty much any system, but 4e is very up-front about this. But that does not mean that there isn't "theme" bound up (or, at least, potentially bound up) in the actual effects of the powers and the selections of those powers that are available to specific classes. Part of that "theme" is hinted at by the "role" assigned to each class, but even that is only a very rough and approximate guideline. In the end, it's down to each individual class - you have to get to grips with what each class has available to it to understand its "thematic content" in full. And, even then, each class covers quite a spread, so there is variance within as well as between classes. So, "Valiant Strike" seems aptly named for its thematic direction, but if it had been called, say, "Mix It Up!", which would be semi-descriptive and so not beyond the pale, it would still carry some thematic elements of "dude with cojones" because, to use it effectively, you just have to be stuck right into the middle of that swirling melee. [/QUOTE]
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