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<blockquote data-quote="D'karr" data-source="post: 6078077" data-attributes="member: 336">In 4e at least you have a choice, even if it's not optimal.&nbsp; In earlier editions you don't get a choice at all.&nbsp; You were prohibited from using ranged weapons, it was somehow dishonorable.In 1e using a bow would have been grounds for expulsion - bye, bye ALL powers.&nbsp; In 4e if you use a bow you're simply not as effective - for your theme.&nbsp; That's not punishment.&nbsp; That's like when I give my kids a choice for pizza, or vegetables.&nbsp; They're both food and neither is going to kill them but they want the one that tastes better.&nbsp; Thematically they are playing kids, and kids like pizza.I know which one I would prefer.&nbsp; One is a hammer to the head, the other is an actual choice.Yes there are, the cavalier and the blackguard come to mind.&nbsp; Each of the builds in divine power also cover more &quot;themes&quot;.&nbsp; It might not be here nor there, but it's interesting that you have at least 6 different flavors of the paladin with 4e, and people complain that 4e is too narrow.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="D'karr, post: 6078077, member: 336"] In 4e at least you have a choice, even if it's not optimal. In earlier editions you don't get a choice at all. You were prohibited from using ranged weapons, it was somehow dishonorable. In 1e using a bow would have been grounds for expulsion - bye, bye ALL powers. In 4e if you use a bow you're simply not as effective - for your theme. That's not punishment. That's like when I give my kids a choice for pizza, or vegetables. They're both food and neither is going to kill them but they want the one that tastes better. Thematically they are playing kids, and kids like pizza. I know which one I would prefer. One is a hammer to the head, the other is an actual choice. Yes there are, the cavalier and the blackguard come to mind. Each of the builds in divine power also cover more "themes". It might not be here nor there, but it's interesting that you have at least 6 different flavors of the paladin with 4e, and people complain that 4e is too narrow. [/QUOTE]

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