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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6078628" data-attributes="member: 87792">The first rule of refluffing is that the refluffed version must work under the rules of the game.  If you want to refluff a Vancian Caster as Harry Potter you are going to run out of whatever you are using as Expelliarmus in a hurry under normal combat conditions.  Therefore the refluff fails.  So no you can't.  As a general rule, refluffing from a broad general set of rules to very specific rules is easy, refluffing from specific flavour to the general is hard.The question is can the fighter behave like a thief.  Can you make a fighter skilled enough to call himself a thief (rather than one strong enough no one argues when they call themselves a thief).  In 3e with 2+Int skills?  Not a chance.  In 4e you actually can without seriously compromising your fighter as a fighter.  But that still doesn't mean they behave like a member of the rogue class.Been there, done that.  It's very hard work in D&D (I speak from experience), although I would do it in something like Legends of Anglerre or another <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/evilhat/fate-core" target="_blank">Fate</a> based game, and I'll run <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1116133034/margaret-weis-productions-cortex-plus-hackers-guid" target="_blank">Leverage</a> or hacks of it without any prep.I believe you're talking about <a href="http://derailedgaming.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/gencon-2011-debrief-part-5/#more-72" target="_blank">Leverage: The Dungeon Job</a> here."<a href="http://community.wizards.com/wiki/Dnd:Eberron" target="_blank">If it exists in the D&D world then it has a place in Eberron</a>"Why do you even need the coin?  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Diceless_Roleplaying_Game" target="_blank">Amber Diceless</a> doesn't.  Neither does <a href="http://thoughtfulgames.com/montsegur1244/" target="_blank">Montsegur 1244</a>.  And personally I'd prefer to use a <a href="http://www.tiltingatwindmills.net/" target="_blank">Jenga tower</a>.The problem here is that you are taking metagame information like the name of a character's class and equating it with in character and mechanical information.  There is value in the distinctions between classes - it allows for different approaches, stronger themes, and to have abilities in the game that should not be combined in a way you couldn't with a point-buy system.</blockquote>

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