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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6079102" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, we goth enjoyed it. Honestly I didn't find the 4e materials all that uneven at all. My comparison is mostly 1e and 2e stuff, which could be all over the map quality-wise, and not 3.5, so maybe there was a pinnacle of quality that I missed in there <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> (doubtful but still). The whole idea with 4e WAS to get DDI if you wanted to go deeper. DDI (Dungeon and Dragon articles) actually is QUITE high quality, equal in every way to the books generally. It may be "fan submitted" to some limited extent, but if you submitted article pitches you RAPIDLY discovered they were VERY VERY picky and from people like Claudio Pozas (Klaus) posting here often it is pretty apparent that they demanded high quality output and the material went through the same editorial process as all the printed stuff did.They didn't keep throwing out new things. In fact the PHB1 lists all the power sources that would ever exist in the game. If anything they CUT BACK by removing the concept of a 'ki' source and relegating the Shadow (and somewhat the Primordial/Elemental) power sources to secondary status. I know a lot of people are all down on Heroes of Shadow, but I thought it was highly flavorful and quite cool. It wasn't "half-donkeyed" at all, except maybe the Binder. Shadow PCs and Elemental PCs have somewhat less support, sure, but they have as much as other classes had a year in. I don't think it is fair to call that material bad because WotC has the (IMHO bad) idea to stop supplying support for 4e entirely. I'd just point out that they also had every plan to make splat books to support the other classes and more race books, etc, but apparently they weren't lucrative enough, so I'd guess people weren't that interested. PERSONALLY I thought the race books were reaching. The other stuff however was all pretty good. Nothing is flawless but I thought overall the quality of material put out for 4e was and is excellent. The production values are certainly uniformly high, etc. If there's a blot on that it was the HPE series of modules. They suited the nature of the game poorly for the most part. There were some nice ideas in some of them and I know people that built fun adventures out of them, but out of the book they were mostly pretty dismal play experiences that tried to shoehorn a largely dungeon-crawling mode of play into a game that as Pemerton has explained is much better suited to a different style.</blockquote>

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