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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6080192" data-attributes="member: 82106">Worked fine for us. Vampire is more designed for the guy that wants to play a Vampire, not min/maxers. It goes for flavor. I'm not saying more support for it wouldn't be nice, but clearly WoTC is cutting back. It IS an AEDU class, so it should be pretty easy to expand. True, its actually a perfectly good class. Would be interesting to get some more support, but BoVD has a bunch of interesting options that work well with it thematically.Binders are crud. The problem is CONCEPT though, the mechanics could be OK except the concept is too close to existing warlock subclasses. There just wasn't room for it to work well and be distinct. Frankly it feels like it didn't pan out and they just kept it in because they needed page count. The E-ssassin is actually pretty decent, and they've done some stuff for it in Dragon. Remember, the O-ssassin was actually a DDI-only 'test' class. WotC never released it as a finished thing and basically it wasn't a great design, BUT it wasn't taking up page count in any book either. In any case its playable, if not great. Yeah, you have some rose-colored glasses in terms of typos and etc in earlier editions. While I don't have some sort of statistics I read a lot of stuff and play plenty of games. I am pretty sure 4e doesn't have any unusual number of typos or other similar defects. If you have been involved in the production chain for things like books you'll also know that it isn't a matter of &quot;just use a spell checker&quot;, that's silly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 6080192, member: 82106"] Worked fine for us. Vampire is more designed for the guy that wants to play a Vampire, not min/maxers. It goes for flavor. I'm not saying more support for it wouldn't be nice, but clearly WoTC is cutting back. It IS an AEDU class, so it should be pretty easy to expand. True, its actually a perfectly good class. Would be interesting to get some more support, but BoVD has a bunch of interesting options that work well with it thematically. Binders are crud. The problem is CONCEPT though, the mechanics could be OK except the concept is too close to existing warlock subclasses. There just wasn't room for it to work well and be distinct. Frankly it feels like it didn't pan out and they just kept it in because they needed page count. The E-ssassin is actually pretty decent, and they've done some stuff for it in Dragon. Remember, the O-ssassin was actually a DDI-only 'test' class. WotC never released it as a finished thing and basically it wasn't a great design, BUT it wasn't taking up page count in any book either. In any case its playable, if not great. Yeah, you have some rose-colored glasses in terms of typos and etc in earlier editions. While I don't have some sort of statistics I read a lot of stuff and play plenty of games. I am pretty sure 4e doesn't have any unusual number of typos or other similar defects. If you have been involved in the production chain for things like books you'll also know that it isn't a matter of "just use a spell checker", that's silly. [/QUOTE]

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