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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6083984" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, there is a sense in which 3.x has this system that seems like it should be great and all, but then OTOH it really just boils down to being a point buy system. The whole POINT of classes was to pigeonhole characters. 3.5 kind of lost that. I think respeccing characters is a useful feature, but 3.x required so much mastery of the rules to effectively use MCing that it seemed counter-productive to me. 4e definitely backed off that, a class MEANS a lot in 4e, your character mostly IS a fighter or a cleric or whatever, but you can still do a LOT with that, and when would the DM NOT be involved in a situation where a PC suddenly decided to see the light and become a cleric instead of a thief? Its nice enough if the rules can leave that up to the player, but I am not sure it is a huge gain. Certainly 4e's character gen rules demand less of players and that's a good thing.</blockquote>