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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Myrhdraak" data-source="post: 6866956" data-attributes="member: 6694190"><p>I find the major difference is in how the adventures are written. In 5e there is much more details to every room, small discoveries you can make if you take the time. The 4th Edition adventures and the format that was introduced was very combat and encounter oriented with less focus on room detail and extra info what could be found. However, reading some of the 5e adventures, some parts get redicilous as well. "If the players do not say that they search under the rug, they do not find the hidden compartment". Such statements get very hard to mix with the skill system (i.e. a Perception check). Either you throw the whole skill system out the window and go back to 1st edition or you state the DC needed to find the compartment and trust in the characters intelligence to check under the rug - not the players. I don't think you can have it both.</p></blockquote><p></p>