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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6867987" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>I actually find the 'Empowered DM' emphasis works well for improv, as well, just 'everything's a ruling' instead of 'everything's a house rule' and zero prep instead of tons. The only approach you have to worry about resolving is the one they actually take. It can be 'that worked, and this stuff happened' or 'that didn't work, and this other stuff happend' or 'roll DEX + Macramé DC 35' or whatever else seems like a good idea in the moment. You can riff off what the players are interested in and ask about instead of trying to fill the whole world in ahead of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Abdul was talking about a 7th level party. Probably not hundreds. But, yeah, at least attack the party from both sides of the road. </p><p></p><p>I doubt it's the case in that game, but one of the dangers of TotM is AE placement. It's easy to be overly stingy or generous with how many targets you can catch in one. </p><p></p><p>Sounds cool. D&D so rarely gets to those truely big battles we so often see in genre. Which is ironic given its wargaming roots, so it's fun when it comes full circle and tackles full-scale battles. I ran combats (not many, my players'd've revolted) like that in AD&D - but with an adaptation of Battlesystem where the party was a 'unit,' to (sorta) speed things up. Mostly, be it classic or 3e, when DMs pulled out hordes like that, we'd figure out how we'd systematically demolish them, and how many natural 20s they peg us with in the process, on average, but not generally play through it, at least, not for two sessions. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> At some point in 3e they came up with adapting Swarm rules to humanoids in large groups, much like units. I finally got to use that idea in 4e... The most extreme case was a 26th level party facing Sahuagin 'Schools' (who knew they had lateral lines?).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6867987, member: 996"] I actually find the 'Empowered DM' emphasis works well for improv, as well, just 'everything's a ruling' instead of 'everything's a house rule' and zero prep instead of tons. The only approach you have to worry about resolving is the one they actually take. It can be 'that worked, and this stuff happened' or 'that didn't work, and this other stuff happend' or 'roll DEX + Macramé DC 35' or whatever else seems like a good idea in the moment. You can riff off what the players are interested in and ask about instead of trying to fill the whole world in ahead of them. Abdul was talking about a 7th level party. Probably not hundreds. But, yeah, at least attack the party from both sides of the road. I doubt it's the case in that game, but one of the dangers of TotM is AE placement. It's easy to be overly stingy or generous with how many targets you can catch in one. Sounds cool. D&D so rarely gets to those truely big battles we so often see in genre. Which is ironic given its wargaming roots, so it's fun when it comes full circle and tackles full-scale battles. I ran combats (not many, my players'd've revolted) like that in AD&D - but with an adaptation of Battlesystem where the party was a 'unit,' to (sorta) speed things up. Mostly, be it classic or 3e, when DMs pulled out hordes like that, we'd figure out how we'd systematically demolish them, and how many natural 20s they peg us with in the process, on average, but not generally play through it, at least, not for two sessions. ;) At some point in 3e they came up with adapting Swarm rules to humanoids in large groups, much like units. I finally got to use that idea in 4e... The most extreme case was a 26th level party facing Sahuagin 'Schools' (who knew they had lateral lines?). [/QUOTE]
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