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Message: <blockquote data-quote="humble minion" data-source="post: 8683418" data-attributes="member: 5948">For my sins, I ran a long d20 Star wars campaign using VP/WP.It was a train wreck of a system, frankly.  Among the problems (SWd20 had a LOT of problems and I still personally resent whoever it was at WotC who wrote, tested, and okayed that disastrous system to be sold to the unsuspecting public, but I'll try to stick to VP/WP issues here) were: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">players optimising their characters to fish for crits to hit the wounds of an enemy rather than bothering to chew through the VP.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">pretty much no thought given to how things like area effect weapons or persistent effects like being on fire interacted with the new system</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">as damage inflated at higher level, it made crits into effective instakills on even very tough PCs</li> </ul>A lot of these problems were attributable to the whole VP/WP system being tacked on to standard d20 with profoundly insufficient thought and testing, and to the interaction of VP/WP with all sorts of other, equally broken and dysfunctional aspects of that game.  But not all of them were.As far as dysfunctional death spirals - I actually don't mind the Bloodied mechanic from 4e to be honest.  Just having a nice simple single threshold that can be used to trigger positive or negative special effects or conditions or whatever - that's a nice extra design feature that spells/monsters/abilities can be designed to key off, without getting too deep into the weeds.</blockquote>

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