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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9754628" data-attributes="member: 6877472">I've found it's often less about what makes sense or would be balanced, and more to do with some people really wanting to play a mostly or completely nonmagical character, often with less &quot;buttons&quot; to press.&nbsp; To be that everyman hero who needs no magic or tricks and wants no magic or tricks.YMMV if you feel that such an archetype could realistically stand up to kaiju, dragons, or powerful magic without such or not.&nbsp; To them, the Fighting-Man armed with nothing but his wits and a sword is so essential to their D&amp;D experience, they reject any version of the game without it.&nbsp; You can talk math, logic, or even the reality of high level AD&amp;D warriors festooned with magic items- it doesn't matter.&nbsp; That's not the experience they associate with the game.&nbsp; It's not the game they want D&amp;D to be.Facts aren't going to outweigh emotions no matter how many of them you pile up.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9754628, member: 6877472"] I've found it's often less about what makes sense or would be balanced, and more to do with some people really wanting to play a mostly or completely nonmagical character, often with less "buttons" to press. To be that everyman hero who needs no magic or tricks and wants no magic or tricks. YMMV if you feel that such an archetype could realistically stand up to kaiju, dragons, or powerful magic without such or not. To them, the Fighting-Man armed with nothing but his wits and a sword is so essential to their D&D experience, they reject any version of the game without it. You can talk math, logic, or even the reality of high level AD&D warriors festooned with magic items- it doesn't matter. That's not the experience they associate with the game. It's not the game they want D&D to be. Facts aren't going to outweigh emotions no matter how many of them you pile up. [/QUOTE]

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